Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

based that clip alone [not even judging their name] i can't imagine being a person who listens to cum town

it takes all kinds

yeah apparently it takes dumb assholes too

absolutely

what Will says approx. 44 min into the latest episode about how private schools are more laid-back is completely wrong, everything they said prior to that about public schools putting insane amounts of pressure on very young kids and making them incredibly anxious absolutely happens in private schools. speaking from experience. all that stuff they said about kids in 3rd grade being warned about getting into AP classes and good colleges is everywhere in private schools. Assuming he went to a private school in Manhattan (like me), I'm surprised he had that take. I also went to a Quaker school for HS, and it was not 'laid-back' though obviously not the under-funded and militaristic environment of public schools.

i love my daughter's public school it's great

yeah that whole segment on parenting and uh steel manufacturing(??) saw them veer a little too far out of their lane. the actual interview with the striking teacher was great, though, and I almost spat out my coffee when he said that his preferred outcome would be "...a worker's republic?"

yea the interview was good

The DBHQ is the Dirtbag HQ, the Chapo-adjacent discord server.

Friend of the pod and the closest thing there is to a dirtbag on staff at a mainstream paper Liz Bruenig finally throws down the "s" word, invoking both Andrew Sullivan and Mark Fisher in the process.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/its-time-to-give-socialism-a-try/2018/03/06/c603a1b6-2164-11e8-86f6-54bfff693d2b_story.html?utm_term=.5ac9b54dca7b

Sweet. Good on her.

welp this david cross appearance is extremely uncomfortable

His first was uncomfortable enough I'm surprised they brought him back.

honestly a decent producer/editor would have cut that whole Farrakhan argument

I haven't listened to the latest one yet, but sometimes they kind of flounder as it seems like they're all taking turns trying to stumble onto the *right* left take to have. I felt that way when they started talking about the Stoneman kids, like they couldn't really settle on a point to have about it but felt like they had to have some point about it.

ha, just came here to post pretty much exactly what simon did

cross comes across as a cranky asshole in pretty much every interview i've ever heard with him, i think that's just his deal

lol at him and felix arguing about louis farrakhan of all people tho

Felix was also taking some big swings at jokes with Cross there

which one of them was pro farrakhan? i keep trying to guess but i could really see it going either way.

neither, really - felix was dismissive of him as a spent force, cross was adamant that farrakhan was still a dangerous public figure

It was a really dumb argument tbh, assumptions of bad faith on both sides. They just seem to irk each other to some extent

That said, DC's little digs at the podcast were kinda rich considering how he made his bones...telling (bad, mostly) jokes into microphones

(imo Cross is an excellent comedic actor but a mediocre-at-best comic and a generally unpleasant dude)

I only heard DC's first appearance on the show, but I got the sense that he likes to take issue with whatever someone else is saying in order to make himself look the "smart one."

i feel like cross might be kinda butthurt that the chapo folks haven't paid their dues toiling for years in shithole comedy clubs, and he kinda has a point in the sense that they still suck on stage, but podcasting isn't standup so wgaf rly

neither, really - felix was dismissive of him as a spent force, cross was adamant that farrakhan was still a dangerous public figure

fwiw this is really interesting to me more bc of cross + his relationship to jewishness which he has often disavowed but of which i read his concerns about farrakhan as being operative

i.e. ime jews are more concerned about farrakhan than the general pop (for i think obvious reasons) and so i'm kinda using it as tea leaves vis-a-vis cross which is why i was curious where he stood. i mean this is just trivia ultimately but something i've sorta had an eye on for over a decade.

i feel like cross might be kinda butthurt that the chapo folks haven't paid their dues toiling for years in shithole comedy clubs, and he kinda has a point in the sense that they still suck on stage, but podcasting isn't standup so wgaf rly

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Marc Maron Syndrome

yeah cross is a total prick in this episode

There’s something to be said for coming on these kinds of shows and making the hosts defend their statements—although that can get tiresome in practice.

In theory, I like the idea of them more openly disagreeing, arguing, etc., on the show. But in reality I usually don’t like to listen to any kind of extended debate. Gets me agitated.

Didn’t they have a right wing guy on once? Maybe they did and didn’t release it?

i have heard at least one Cross-is-a-kook story

xp Yeah, you can find the unofficial Matthew Walther episode on Youtube. It's ridiculous.

Didn’t they have a right wing guy on once? Maybe they did and didn’t release it?

yeah they dumped it on youtube. forgot the guy's name. it was pretty funny.

and i agree that guests should challenge hosts should the feeling arise but this one was extremely stupid

They interviewed the trad cath guy who wrote the anti-Chapo article and yeah it was bad

And heeeeere it is:

https://youtu.be/jvN464imtMQ

It’s hilarious how you can pinpoint the precise instant Matt loses it.

Also, Amber(who was not a full co-host at that point yet they were recording in her apartment) was threatening Will with complete de-friending if he didn’t let her on to confront the guy.

Its the second time they had a conservative/Libertarian on. The previous was Robby Soave from Reason, I think, who seemed to fold when confronted with the implications of his beliefs.

Episode 17, I think.

The David Cross episode wasn't that bad - Felix was as much of an asshole as he was.

seriously so many fuckin people in this world think the predator is the best ice cube album smdh

yeah, it's clearly 2001's greatest hits

jfc that cum town clip

yeah it's v bad

his jbp impression is extremely funny tho hehehehe

apparently that was a patreon episode so people paid cash money to hear that, v cool

felix's JP is much funnier than Mullin's imo

apparently that was a patreon episode so people paid cash money to hear that, v cool

i'm sure if you contact the cum boys on twitter they'll happily let you venmo them some cash

i can take or leave a lot of cumtown and i certainly wouldn't pay for it, but imo everyone should be dunking on peterson and his saddo acolytes all day every day.

yea but that’s easy. it’s like making fun of libertarians

xp i did see their live show last month at Carolines, that counts

oh lol i totally paid for funny moms the last time i was in nyc and it was totally worth it

Check it out, Eric Garland UK has logged on:

In which @ggreenwald, @willmenaker, @MaxBlumenthal, @Trillburne, @RaniaKhalek, and yours truly are exposed as major players in the Russian troll conspiracy https://t.co/NMkPQOEXcQ pic.twitter.com/TOPBwsA5xz

— Carlgoyle Beijer (@CarlBeijer) March 9, 2018

https://www.byline.com/column/67/article/2078

A series of posts and and reports started to grow to a crescendo from the end of February 2018

Oh no

I debated Matt about video games again on cable news https://t.co/AdptOMvnmS So far I’m two for two... a remarkable winning streak in defense of game’s

— Virgil Texas (@virgiltexas) March 10, 2018

Virgil dressed like this, and Matt wore a terrible shirt, both very on-message

pic.twitter.com/ZxSX6DBjx7

— Virgil Texas (@virgiltexas) March 10, 2018