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same, alas :(

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

this is pretty interesting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9chamel_sauce

Balsamella or Besciamella is the Italian equivalent of the French Béchamel: a very simple white sauce of flour, butter and milk. The sauce was originally from renaissance Tuscany and was known as “Salsa Colla or Colletta” ("glue sauce") because of the gluey consistency of the sauce, and was brought to France by the chefs of Catherina de’ Medici in 1533. Louis de Béchamel, Marquis de Nointel,[6] was a financier who held the honorary post of chief steward to King Louis XIV. The sauce was prominent in Italian cooking texts of the Renaissance as "salsa colla", but was renamed much later in Le Cuisinier François, published in 1651 by François Pierre La Varenne (1615–1678), chef de cuisine to Nicolas Chalon du Blé, marquis d'Uxelles. The foundation of French cuisine, the Cuisinier François ran through some thirty editions in seventy-five years.

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

The eggs are sliced and layered thru the lasagne - I quite liked it, adds some creaminess, which is also why I like bechamel

just1n3, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link

béchamel mucho

it's my leopard. (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

Bechamel is what you would feed through an eyedropper to a baby squirrel.

Yerac, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

constructed thusly:

parmasan
cheese sauce
pasta
mozzerella
ragu
pasta
cheese sauce
pasta
ragu

e-woke (NotEnough), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link

ftr I never said ricotta is disgusting, it is just weird and bad in lasagna, making a "just right" dish far too heavy and cheesy

Please everybody enjoy as me to make you lasagna when you see me, nobody I have made my margarita lasagna for has been anything other than blown away

The Hazan recipe for lasagna is excellent, ignore the homemade lasagna noodles imo, just use store bought, if your sauce is ready it only takes 30 minutes to assemble or less even

All cheese are good except:

1. Budget toilet-puck-smelling Brie
2. Bad Wensleydale-- already a 3rd tier cheese
3. Cheap feta

In fact if I had a controversial option about cheese it'd probably be in the 100 Best Uses For Goats list:

1. Befriending
2. Following up a mountain
3. Conversing
4. Depicting in artwork
5. Dressing in cute outfits
...
121. Cashmere
...
1000. Cheese

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 March 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link

Feta is always bad

But lots of good goats cheeses besides tbh

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link

I don't usually love chèvres but dummy that I am only learned today that Roquefort is a chèvre & I love Roquefort so there you go

brebis > vache > chèvre

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 1 March 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link

feta is good u savage xp

NEW CHIMP THREAT (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link

Feta is always bad

1/4 of me wants to fight you for this, the other 3/4 are of British descent so ....

sarahell, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

Feta is always bad

But lots of good goats cheeses besides tbh

not all fetas are made of goat milk ... some are sheep's milk, some are mixes of goat and sheep. if you don't like goat feta try sheep feta.

signed, a retired fromager

the late great, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link

i grew up eating feta the way white people eat butter (toast topping of choice, breakfast lunch and dinner) so hearing you say that is like ... hearing someone say rice or beans are bad. it's a staple!

the late great, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

i have bought/tried feta in the usa and it is always so salty

feta in canada is not so salty

these things are true across a bunch of brands so i just don't understand it

F# A# (∞), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

here we choose between greek & bulgarian & turkish fetas ("fetas"), they are a little rawer tasting than the Chicago feta I ate while in the usa

but if you take away the brine it's not that different from like queso fresco, so we've used it a lot in mexican cooking here

droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

My old persian roommate turned me onto eating feta and grapes mashed into a pita. Delicious.

Yerac, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

I love when chevre gets aged and all goopey.

Yerac, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link

feta and grapes mashed into a pita.

so ready for this

Hunt3r, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link

feta is one my favorite cheeses, i grew up eating chunks of feta with alphonso olives between crusty bread for breakfast, lunch, a quick dinner, a late night snack

there is a spectrum though

don't buy pre-packaged crumbled dry feta in a plastic container

go to a good market and buy a block floating in brine

lots of varieties of feta exist, bulgarian is my favorite, is a little more creamy and less chalky than others

marcos, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:28 (six years ago) link

not my thing but i've seen people eat feta with watermelon as well

F# A# (∞), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link

yea my sister-in-law made a watermelon salad w/ feta and those salty cured moroccan olives and it was so good

marcos, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

no joke the more cheese tastes like vomit the better i like it so feta is p good imo

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link

feta
watermelon
mint

SO GOOD

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

Feta is a binary actually

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

Tips fetora, bows

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

Yeah the block of feta in brine is key because you can actually spread it a little

Yerac, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

What if I’ve only had precrumbled supermarket feta? And I really like it? Shouldn’t I just keep eating that so I can never know any better?

Jeff, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link

yep. Prolly.

Yerac, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link

a slice of feta on a lamb burger with red onion seems pretty simple but it's always extremely good.

omar little, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link

Controp? I hate lamb. I mean OK I haven't eaten meat in over 20 years but when I did I hated lamb so much.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link

I thought I hated lamb because of the lanolin grease smell, and we never had it at home. HOWEVER a decent doner kebab (not the elephant leg thing) is a thing of joy, and kofte are maybe even better.

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link

lamb is ok but not that great and def not worth the extra time/expense of finding and buying it over other meats

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

it's a restaurant meat

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

i love meat but lamb is not something i really enjoy

F# A# (∞), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link

my family never had lamb, at all, and having it as an adult at curry places and when my college friend brought lamburgers was revelatory

mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link

not into lamb either

go to a good market and buy a block floating in brine

yes!!!

What if I’ve only had precrumbled supermarket feta? And I really like it? Shouldn’t I just keep eating that so I can never know any better?

― Jeff

disgusting savagery

the late great, Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link

Americans don’t really eat lamb (I cannot remember ever having any before moving to London - my mom loathes lamb, mutton, or any meat that tastes gamey).

kim jong deal (suzy), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link

Lamb is a great meat, it's a bit of a local delicacy tho

Well roasted leg of lamb is prob my fave meal

Mutton and lamb cooked badly definitely has a very unpleasant heaviness tho

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link

bold take: lamb is good not bad

mark s, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link

I didn’t understand lamb-hate til I tried American lamb - it’s fucking gross and tastes like halfway between mutton and hogget

New Zealand lamb is delicious- it’s not gamey at all, doesn’t smell weird and is very mild in flavor. Probs the only food I could eat every day for the rest of my life and never get sick of it.

just1n3, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link

i grew up in CT eating lamb regularly maybe monthly. remember neighbor buddy coming over and first just "ugh, what is that smell and why would you eat it?" and later just "ugh." i like lamb, hate mint jelly tho, made me a fam outlier.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link

I rarely crave lamb or goat, but can find them readily at Middle Eastern places hereabouts as well as fancy places.

Wyld Scalyns (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link

quality is pretty variable i guess. i would like to have a butterflied leg of lamb grilled even now tbh.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link

I need to try goat again. My coworker has been having goat curry, kind of envious

mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

I love all meat. But I basically keep pescatarian at home and only eat meat when I travel or someone is cooking for me. I figure it's a good trade off. People need to eat less meat in general.

Yerac, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

i only eat lamb at indian restaurants and it is always good. had some last week. lamb curry. so good.

scott seward, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

xp now we're just saying sensible opinions

mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

there's a place near me that makes super spicy nine alarm goat curry (from some very hot and humid part of india, madras or bengal maybe?) that is amazing

the late great, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

I'd be all about that

the lamb curry I used to get was at an indonesian place, kind of want to track down another

mh, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

Dry goat curry, yummm.

Yerac, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link


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