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it's pretty obvious why a politics based on bigotry and blame wouldn't be too interested in self-analysis

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:55 (eight years ago)

this bullshit bias against talk therapy extends outside rightwing worlds, it's really depressing. only logical argument against it is prohibitive cost for some

flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:56 (eight years ago)

oh sure they're not the only naysayers and there's all kinds of nuanced arguments to be had about the value of therapy and its structure as in industry but it's clear why the redpill crowd are agin it

smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:59 (eight years ago)

yeah there's sometimes a kernel of that (a lot of people in these communities self identify as "NEETs") but it isn't the entire story or even the biggest factor

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Monday, 26 February 2018 18:59 (eight years ago)

true

flappy bird, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:01 (eight years ago)

The clash of titans. The great debate of our age.
Who is the real enemy - postmodern neo-marxists, or neo-marxist postmodernists? pic.twitter.com/OTo6SoKIRx

— Rocko's Modern Basilisk 🏴 (@InnerPartisan) February 26, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:09 (eight years ago)

gotcha! the real enemy is white men

maura, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:10 (eight years ago)

Oh my god. The Orpheum?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:22 (eight years ago)

"philosophy", I may never stop vomiting

Dan I., Wednesday, 28 February 2018 02:48 (eight years ago)

barf

re: "postmodern neo-marxists", I consider this the final word on that

hi i'm a postmodern marxist. that means i believe in the deconstruction of the master narrative and the proliferation of perspectives, but also, somehow, simultaneously, believe only in marxism.

— your friend john (@johnsemley3000) January 25, 2018

Simon H., Wednesday, 28 February 2018 02:55 (eight years ago)

Your friend John is otm. And anyone who has a problem with that position should read Sloterdijks Critique of Cynical Reason.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 10:12 (eight years ago)

whinging about postmodernism is like whinging about oxygen tbh

https://cdn1.umg3.net/95/files/2018/01/BANNER.jpg (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 10:22 (eight years ago)

Again, otm. Fuck the metamodernists, though...

Frederik B, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 10:24 (eight years ago)

cute story from the Bay Area

Ten times in the last six month, Revolution Books, the far left bookstore in the Telegraph Channing Mall, has found itself under attack from far-right activists.

The latest skirmish was Sat. March 4, the one-year anniversary of the pro-Trump rally in Martin Luther King Jr. Park that saw people on the right and Antifa and BAMN activists duking it out for control. A group of people who called themselves “Berkeley Warriors” on a live Facebook feed came from Sacramento and stormed the store.

“Fucking Commie scum,” one demonstrator, Rob Cantrall, said on a video taken by bookstore staff while Reiko Redmonde, a volunteer manager at the store, tried to prevent him and others from entering. “You are commie scum. We are going to burn down your bookstore. You know that, right?”

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/03/07/right-wing-activists-target-berkeleys-revolution-books

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 March 2018 17:13 (eight years ago)

This headline from the LA Review of Books is so great I'm almost afraid to read the piece for fear of almost certainly being let down.

A Messiah-cum-Surrogate-Dad for Gormless Dimwits: On Jordan B. Peterson’s “12 Rules for Life”

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 9 March 2018 02:52 (eight years ago)

Real life feels like The Screwfly Solution. Mass delusion and violent hysteria

Dan I., Friday, 9 March 2018 04:01 (eight years ago)

“The intellectual heirs to the obnoxious right-wing shock-jocks of yesteryear” is a good line from that LARB piece

maura, Friday, 9 March 2018 08:31 (eight years ago)

How are teenage boys even hearing about Jordan Peterson in the first place? Does he show up as a suggestion in a youtube Overwatch playlist or something? Twitch advertising? It's terrifying that young men are apparently such fertile ground for that kind of shit right now.

Dan I., Monday, 12 March 2018 15:36 (eight years ago)

It has to be mostly Youtube. All kinds of stuff on Youtube leads towards Jordan Peterson. Pew Die Pie was holding up a copy of his book last month.

jmm, Monday, 12 March 2018 15:40 (eight years ago)

At least in Canada, he has been getting a ridiculous amount of mainstream media coverage for years at this point. The National Post opinion pages were practically functioning as his cheerleading squad for a while. P sure it would be easier than it was for teenage boys to hear about Chomsky in the 90s. xp

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 12 March 2018 15:40 (eight years ago)

last night I was in a coffee shop and the girl next to me was watching many Jordan Peterson videos. I was confused

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 12 March 2018 15:44 (eight years ago)

Adverts for his book are all over the fucking London Underground

imago, Monday, 12 March 2018 15:48 (eight years ago)

last night I was in a coffee shop and the girl next to me was watching many Jordan Peterson videos. I was confused

Prepping for a blind date?

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 12 March 2018 15:50 (eight years ago)

The apparently authentic enthusiasm for JP among young people--as well as its magnitude and reach--might be the most distressing thing for me since Trump was elected. If the kids aren't alright, I'm running out of things to feel optimistic about

Dan I., Monday, 12 March 2018 16:07 (eight years ago)

My preferred response when encountering such: https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ab9df7b8-db3b-4772-982f-bdf8e9e5c90e

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 12 March 2018 16:07 (eight years ago)

gonna hope coffee shop girl was watching jp vids as part of a 'know your enemy' manouevre

I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 March 2018 16:10 (eight years ago)

quick survey of the youth in my experience is that v v few are paying attention to JP but every one of them will start a band

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Monday, 12 March 2018 16:14 (eight years ago)

i just pray every day that none of my students tries to drop some jp ~noledge~ on me

j., Monday, 12 March 2018 16:14 (eight years ago)

jp's stupid fucking voice has ruined 'the rainbow connection' forevermore and for that along he should be dropped down a well

I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 March 2018 16:15 (eight years ago)

er, that alone

I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 March 2018 16:15 (eight years ago)

Adverts for his book are all over the fucking London Underground

Wait, that's truly the same guy?? I just thought it was some self-help guru with the same name! The quotes they excerpt are more feel good facebook meme than alt right screed.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 12 March 2018 16:20 (eight years ago)

xxp don't let him ruin kermit (a prince)

flappy bird, Monday, 12 March 2018 16:26 (eight years ago)

gonna hope coffee shop girl was watching jp vids as part of a 'know your enemy' manouevre

the title of the video I saw was something like "Why Men Are Going Their Own Way" (it wasn't worded that way but it definitely had the same sentiment) so I sure hope so

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 12 March 2018 16:58 (eight years ago)

oh good that's just a fleetwood mac cover and lyric video, JP sitting in his bedroom studio behind a pop shield crying about someone he met on match.com that called him a dildo while he was eating noodles

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Monday, 12 March 2018 17:07 (eight years ago)

dildos are more useful than jordan peterson

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 12 March 2018 17:13 (eight years ago)

The quotes they excerpt are more feel good facebook meme than alt right screed.

I think combining these different sides is part of the reason for his popularity. He has credibility for many young men as a source of life advice because they see him as being on the right side of the culture war against feminists and trans people.

Meanwhile, some who are leery of the alt-right see at least something compelling in what he says about psychology, mythology, archetypes, etc., and so they go to bat for him in trying to disentangle it all.

jmm, Monday, 12 March 2018 17:17 (eight years ago)

otm esp on that second point

flappy bird, Monday, 12 March 2018 17:23 (eight years ago)

dildos are more useful than jordan peterson

― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, March 12, 2018 12:13 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

facts

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Monday, 12 March 2018 17:31 (eight years ago)

xxp so he's like rupi kaur

j., Monday, 12 March 2018 17:38 (eight years ago)

rupi kaur for edgelord shitposters

j., Monday, 12 March 2018 17:38 (eight years ago)

this kind of ties back into the whole anti-psychiatry and anti-medication element of it: therapists may be bad, but jordan peterson isn't

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 12 March 2018 17:44 (eight years ago)

yikes.

Nhex, Monday, 12 March 2018 19:59 (eight years ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/10/opinion/sunday/youtube-politics-radical.html

this sorta seems relevant

gbx, Monday, 12 March 2018 20:05 (eight years ago)

White does mention a fondness for the controversial author and YouTube philosopher Jordan Peterson, though he's apparently only seen him talking about religion. "He's got more intelligence in his brain than his body can handle," he says. Later, I mention the anti-feminist, anti-political-correctness screeds for which Peterson is also known. "I didn't know about that," White says. "Maybe we should drop that whole thing now!"

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/jack-white-cover-story-new-album-white-stripes-w517705

maura, Monday, 12 March 2018 22:29 (eight years ago)

rmde

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Monday, 12 March 2018 22:40 (eight years ago)

thats the funniest shit ive seen in a minute

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 12 March 2018 22:49 (eight years ago)

jesus goddamn christ

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Monday, 12 March 2018 23:10 (eight years ago)

tomato, tomato, potato, fascism, let's call the whole thing off

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 12 March 2018 23:16 (eight years ago)

Here’s something:

https://m.mic.com/articles/188397/richard-spencer-suspending-the-rest-of-his-college-tour-because-antifa-is-winning#.PGriurKlx

He been r-u-n-n-o-f-t!

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 12 March 2018 23:21 (eight years ago)


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