Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

You've been arguing all week already though, why exclude this relevant point?

(unless you mean you had already given up on the arguing, and are resisting re-entering the fray)

CAN'T STOP EVIL

if he didn't have a gun would have just used a knife

The existence of knives has done wonders for the NRA.

xxp basically, yeah, I'm done knocking my head against this particular wall.

The clear counterpoint in this instance is 'well, if those family members had just been armed...'. As if that scenario wouldn't also likely have ended with everyone being shot.

yeah but they'd have died defending themselves - an honorable murican death

I've seen a couple of different "cold dead hands" types say "gun death figures are meaningless unless you take out the suicides" this week. Which is super charming.

It's not charming but tbf

totally bloody fair?

taking out the suicides is total bullshit tho, cuz how many of those people would still be alive if they didn't have immediate access to handheld death machines at the lowest points in their lives

They could just ad easily run themselves over with a car.

You might as well live

support a ban on cars

They could just ad easily run themselves over with a car.

rip brian harvey :(

The Associated Press reports:

A Pennsylvania school district will cancel classes at an elementary school on Wednesday because a church down the street is hosting a ceremony featuring AR-15 rifles. World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland believes the AR-15 symbolizes the “rod of iron” in the biblical book of Revelation, and it is encouraging couples to bring the weapons to a commitment ceremony.

The Unification Sanctuary’s leader, the Rev. Sean Moon, is the son of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, a self-proclaimed messiah who founded the Unification Church. The ceremony, to be held about a half-mile from Wallenpaupack South Elementary School, is expected to draw hundreds of couples.

On Friday, the superintendent of the Wallenpaupack Area School District wrote in a letter to parents that while “there is no direct threat to our school or community,” given concerns about parking, traffic and the “nature of the event,” students will be bused to schools about 15 miles away.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/national/school-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-rifles/PHfwQe4XptvpLvOZlKENAK/

That John the Revelator knew his weaponry.

Has this been posted anywhere yet?

http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/375646-georgia-lt-gov-threatens-delta-unless-it-restores-relationship-with-nra

Georgia Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle (R) said Monday he would block any tax legislation that benefits Delta Airlines after the company ended its discount program for National Rifle Association (NRA) members.

“I will kill any tax legislation that benefits @Delta unless the company changes its position and fully reinstates its relationship with @NRA. Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back,” Cagle tweeted.

"Let's all hope that Delta comes to its senses and we can go back to the usual way of granting benefits to large corporations."

That's like threatening to have the utilities shut off in your home because your son refuses to change his t-shirt. I'm sure your wife and your other kids will bear the burden of your empty threat with a smile.

Again, though, totally support the NRA and their cohorts engaging in overblown, petulant responses which threaten to further marginalize them and undercut their extremist crusade.

lmao that guy just handed free legal ammunition to Delta to sue over any piece of legislation they don't like

Can't turn your nose up at free ammunition I guess

1) I can't believe I Actually Thought we could Accomplish anything before this midterm election
2) THEYRE MAKING IT SO EASY FOR US TO VOTE THEM OUT? ITS BEYOND LUDICROUS
3) Ya'll are lucky I don't curse on here
4) I have No Words. They are Actively rooting for our deaths now. https://t.co/fmB41fLPJa

— Emma González (@Emma4Change) February 27, 2018

she has the secret of populist Capialization

so much power

so young

She's the best. Hogg is pretty incredible, too.

hold up... that church is a MOONIE CHURCH? every headline writer who just wrote 'church' really needs to be spoken to

lol otm

Hogg has formidable camera presence and can speak in sentences; he shames whoever interviews him.

I think you mean he's a paid actor?

the new wingnut version is:

rightwingers understanding of power dynamics dot jpg pic.twitter.com/RhxTCmB0ui

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) February 26, 2018

i could shoot up a school on 5th avenue and my supporters would still love me!

I find Hogg guilty of conduct unbecoming a victim. How dare he directly confront the factors which led to his becoming a victim rather than weeping helplessly.

every time i read/see anything about gonzalez, hogg, and any of the others, i just start crying. they are SO FUCKING FIERCE coming out of an absolutely traumatic experience, at an age when most people can barely form coherent thoughts on anything.

Ah, but the "victims of illegals" exploitationpalooza '16 was TOTALLY different...

Re: Gonzalez and Hogg, specifically, it really says a lot that the suspicious red flag for so many is their passion, energy and coherence. Must be actors, right?

every time i read/see anything about gonzalez, hogg, and any of the others, i just start crying. they are SO FUCKING FIERCE coming out of an absolutely traumatic experience, at an age when most people can barely form coherent thoughts on anything.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:38 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM

and if the GOP is not shook by these "kids" then they should be

A thought about the Delta story: Ah, so THAT'S what will get Republicans to oppose a huge tax break for a massive corporation.

Economics-only theorists should take note: the tribal culture-war bullshit is (at least in this instance) stronger than capitalism.

Huh, I had no idea the NRA made it so difficult to cancel your membership. Requires sending them a signed letter, apparently, and you have to specifically demand to be removed from all lists.

Ronald Reagan on the idea of selling military weapons to the public pic.twitter.com/2AH0QZqT0s

— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) February 27, 2018

Someone should put together a snappy little guide/animation thing on what to you need to do to quit while this wave of outrage is relatively fresh. xp

The difficulty of quitting is echoed by the ease with which you get "lifetime" membership. The discount on "lifetime" is steep enough to make annual membership foolish, iirc. Not being a lifetime member is like buying your French fries individually.

tbf, what matters most about the NRA isn't how many 'lifetime' inactive members they may use to inflate themselves, but their ability to rally gun nuts to defeat incumbents who don't genuflect to the NRA agenda down to every last detail.

aimless otm. this new yorker profile of the nra’s chief lobbyist in florida lays it out in horrifying detail

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/the-nra-lobbyist-behind-floridas-pro-gun-policies/amp

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/the-nra-lobbyist-behind-floridas-pro-gun-policies

sorry about the amp link

as Kirk Douglas said in Out of the Past, "Nobody quits me."

That new yorker article is fucked.

The top 10 recipients of NRA money in the Senate have all got 100% ratings from the National Right to Life Committee. It's almost as if being anti-abortion has nothing to do with being "pro-life." https://t.co/gPeWJqmwAJ

— SchmOprah (@SchmOprah) February 27, 2018

What % of those senators are supporters of the death penalty.

this is of a piece with every social media chud I've encountered who immediately brings up abortion directly after deriding any attempt to regulate gun proliferation.

https://www.theonion.com/nation-shocked-by-pre-natal-shooting-1819565542