Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

did the FL shooter even use a bump stock? Or was this shooting just the helpful reminder trump/congress needed to remember that they were supposed to have already banned those after Las Vegas

no bump stock that i know of. banning bump stocks and doing nothing else would maybe the worst outcome here.

even the gun nuts are mocking that idea, pointing out that you can cobble together a makeshift one in a couple minutes if you wanted

Students at Lakewood High School, the suburb directly to the west of Cleveland, walked out today.

http://lakewoodobserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=24604

21st century kids: getting a text from my middle school daughter just now asking me when the protest is.

xp the high school isn't the suburb, Lakewood is, just to forestall any smart-assery

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/21/donald-trump-solution-to-school-shootings-arm-teachers-with-guns

“It only works when you have people very adept at using firearms, of which you have many,” Trump said during an emotionally searing session that, extraordinarily, was broadcast live on national television. “It would be teachers and coaches.”

With about two weeks left in the legislative session, Republicans led by Mr. Scott have concluded that it would be politically catastrophic if they failed to do something to address the growing outcry. But they appear likely to pursue legislation narrower than what students are demanding, avoiding a ban on assault weapons.

In the Florida House and Senate, lawmakers said they were involved in bipartisan efforts to craft gun-related legislative proposals that could be introduced Friday or earlier.

State Senator Bill Galvano, a Republican, said in an interview that the Senate proposal would likely involve raising the age to purchase semiautomatic rifles to 21 from 18; introducing a three-day waiting period to purchase such guns; banning “bump stocks,” an attachment that enables a semiautomatic rifle to fire faster; and expanding the power of law enforcement to restrict the actions of mentally ill people under Florida’s Baker Act.

"we'd better do the least possible regulatory action, but QUICK"

oh man

r. Corcoran responded that he would not be in favor of banning weapons like the one used in the attack on the students.
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The speaker of the Florida House, Richard Corcoran, told the students that he would unveil a gun reform package later in the week, but said he was not be in favor of banning military-style assault weapons like the one used in the attack at their school.

“I think that if you look, it’s widely used in multiple different hunting scenarios,” he said. “I know people who go out and they’ll do boar hunts and they’ll use them.”

He continued: “You can disagree, but what I tell my kids — and being in elected office, you have to be very, very, very careful how much authority and power you bring to government. The greatest atrocities known to mankind have been committed by governments.”

A pot-bellied, heaving sleazo is worried that GUVMINT is gonna snatch his gun magazines.

if we can't go on our boar hunts lady liberty will die

again I say: bless the teens https://www.buzzfeed.com/remysmidt/heres-what-its-like-at-the-headquarters-of-the-teens

^^^

That's a nice piece.

I hope these kids, when their dreams are dashed by asshole politicians, put their energy toward getting elligible peers to register and vote. I suspect they will.

I hope they run themselves while they're at it

otm

Seriously, whenever I talk to younger millenials with an iota of political awareness, their keen awareness of how fucked the/their future is gives me a strange form of hope. I was clueless at their age. (And still am, hardee har har.)

strangely, seeing this happen is the most enthusiastic and hopeful I've felt in weeks

CNN townhall already going bad for Rubio. A father whose daughter was killed in the shooting gets a standing ovation for calling Rubio "pathetically weak" on guns.

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) February 22, 2018

Anyone who's not seen Emma Gonzales' speech calling out Trump and the political rhetoric about the shooting - it's absolutely worth your seven minutes.

"They say that tougher gun laws do not decrease gun violence. We call BS!" Florida high school shooting survivor Emma Gonzalez calls on President Trump and lawmakers to tighten gun restrictions in impassioned speech at an anti-gun rally in Fort Lauderdale https://t.co/DgnqrrVs9x

— CNN (@CNN) February 17, 2018

Also, a repeat target of "crisis actor" accusations speaks out

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/02/21/conspiracy-theory-wont-end-enough-enough/360521002/

Seriously, whenever I talk to younger millenials with an iota of political awareness, their keen awareness of how fucked the/their future is gives me a strange form of hope. I was clueless at their age. (And still am, hardee har har.)

― Simon H., Wednesday, February 21, 2018 8:15 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i teach high school and it is the best bc the kids are amazing

Huh. Looks like the Hogg kid was invited but declined!

(To the WH)

I can't look at my Democratic Bill Nelson, with his henna hair and bourbon mien.

on fox news, from left to right:

1) nra figure who wants pastors armed
2) guy who was arrested for bringing a gun to an airport
3) guy who uses mass shootings to shill for conceal carry insurance pic.twitter.com/jnK062UUsP

— John Whitehouse (@existentialfish) February 22, 2018

This Cameron Kasky is an impressive figure.

The crisis found him, and he found his moment. He just cornered the Plankton with a Hair Piece and asked if he'd pledge not to take a single dollar from the NRA.

Holy shit

Rubio is back to being the imbecile babbling in public like he was in February 2016.

Anyone who's not seen Emma Gonzales' speech calling out Trump and the political rhetoric about the shooting - it's absolutely worth your seven minutes.

seriously

these kids have onions man alive

This kid for president. I would, without a moment's hesitation or regret, beat Rubio unconscious with a sock full of quarters.

Marco Rubio tells Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student Cameron Kasky he "supports the 2nd amendment" after he's asked if he'll pledge not to accept any more money from the NRA.

Crowd isn't happy. pic.twitter.com/Erv1yGThJ8

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 22, 2018

also ROFL

Rubio scores an own goal when he says the assault weapons ban "would literally ban every semi-automatic rifle that's sold in America" and the crowd erupts in cheers pic.twitter.com/VfIqxCloyo

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 22, 2018

fair enough!

the danger of the "we can't tackle gun legislation bc we are afraid we'll end up banning all guns" argument is that ppl might decide that's a good thing

"we need guns"

"why?"

"to protect ourselves from tyrannical government..."

"well you guys ARE the government now"

"ok but also law enforcement that abuses power...."

"so you agree that the cop that shot Michael Brown..."

"NO, the officer was justified, he was a thug!"

i love these Parkland survivors. taking the fight to them all head on.

"to protect ourselves from tyrannical government..."

I always find this argument a little charming in its hubris, like people are genuinely convinced they will be able to take on the armed forces of the United States with their handguns. Legalize nukes plz.

the folks who claim to be the most rebellious seem to be the quickest to defend the rank and file these days

I saw one on some social media the other day talking about how easy it would be because there are only however many tens of thousands of active duty troops vs 100 million gun owners and had to laugh. you keep believing that, Cletus.

That’s not an own goal, it’s an image that millions upon millions of law-abiding gun-owners will see and rightly react against. Those are cheers for the revocation of a civil liberty that’s essential to our constitutional republic. https://t.co/8uErGRDCd6

— David French (@DavidAFrench) February 22, 2018

Loesch also says that she “speaks for the NRA” when she says she supports “stronger background checks.” Quoting from the NRA website: “NRA opposes expanding firearm background check systems.” pic.twitter.com/8pZ6tgCP7U

— ana marie cox (@anamariecox) February 22, 2018

the civil liberty of being able to shoot a bazillion rounds in 3 seconds, this thing that our forefathers obviously intended

daaaaaaamn, Sheriff Israel

This CNN thing is intense.

AP history teacher: "Define a term for me: what is your definition of a well-regulated militia as stated in the second amendment? USING SUPPORTING DETAIL, explain to me how an 18 year old with a military rifle is well regulated. And the world is going to grade your answer." pic.twitter.com/TvTzQS3ob2

— Talia Bracha Lavin (@chick_in_kiev) February 22, 2018

Oh look. https://t.co/PrGTE4bPWg

— Hillary Warned Us (@HillaryWarnedUs) February 22, 2018

she sounded on the verge of getting booed off when she went back to red flags again.