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of the linklater movies I've seen boyhood would not even be top 5

Suburbia is massively underrated

Show feels more and more like Slacker with every passing ep, which is a welcome feeling to me. ― Position Position, Saturday, February 3, 2018 9:02 PM

I'm too close to the Before Trilogy to be objective. I love them though.

i happen to just watch the linklater american masters pbs doc yesterday.. hes def smart & talented

difficult to imagine liking 5 of his movies above boyhood unless u really disliked boyhood i spose

I fucking hate Boyhood so much

i just watched Before Sunrise for the first time this weekend and found it enjoyable on a cinematic level but it did not affect me at all on a personal level. Like Julie Delpy said to her friend in the fake phone conversation, Ethan Hawke's character seemed like an adolescent. I liked that she didn't want to bone him; it was very mature of her to decline. He's very American! Kinda want to see the others now. Are they streaming anywhere? I saw BS on Filmstruck but they don't seem to have the other two.

That's cool -- most works of art don't affect me personally either, especially when I see unpleasant people.

I know Netflix was streaming the last two.

But they did bone. In the cemetery.

It might have been a park - been a while since I've watched it but I'm pretty sure it's at least heavily implied that they do and then referenced in the 2nd one.

I was smack in the middle of the target demographic for the movie when it came out and had no interest in seeing it then. I was a 20 year old who thought romance was for chumps. Now that I have finally seen it, I am glad I waited because I rather enjoyed the scenery, etc and would have completely hated the romantic content when I was 20. Will check Netflix!

wait, what? They definitely made out in a park -- I didn't catch anything hinting otherwise. IDK what happens in subsequent episodes of this saga.

Was whether they had sex supposed to be left as an open question before Sunset came out and confirmed it? Sunset leaves it in suspense for a bit.

I assumed they fucked, yes, despite Jesse's BO.

i thought it was weird they didn't exchange addresses to write to each other. that was definitely something people did back then. i forget both of their names.

i didn't catch the inferences to their sexual congress at all -- maybe i just didn't want to see it!

Céline gives her arguments for why they shouldn't, which Jesse accepts. Then she says "Why do we make everything so complicated?" and they go back to rolling around before it cuts away.

Yes, they make out in the park and then it's implied that they fucked and confirmed by a conversation they have in the next one that they did - twice. :)

It was in the park later on, yeah.

right i remember that -- and was impressed at their restraint, mostly hers but his too -- but i guess i assumed they just rolled around and made out
silly me?

I remember that night better than I do entire years.

It was definitely left a little unclear until the 2nd movie but there was never any question in my mind that they did . I think maybe the way they interacted the morning after made me just assume so. Also, I wanted them too.

to not too

now i am disappointed
my big takeaway from this movie was that there is a movie from the 90s in which a boy still likes a girl after she doesn't have sex with him :(

I liked the goth twist my memory put on this by thinking the park was a cemetery. There is a cemetery scene in there somewhere, right?

LL you should watch the others. The 2nd one is the best of the 3, I think.

I think it was obvious when the movie came out that they did have sex in the park. I remember watching it with some people. I like that Kath Bloom song in the movie a lot.

I keep thinking I need to watch Boyhood, but it sounds like I don't. I still need to watch the last in the trilogy.

xp -not that i recall but i know a lot of people who boned in cemeteries in the 90s

i will try to see the others
i am interested because the movie itself was really enjoyable. i liked their conversations and the filmmaking.

"I remember that night better than I do entire years."

<3

Yeah there is a cemetery prior to the park - Julie shows off her favourite tombstones.

Yes! That's the part. Thank you.

i added the other two to my netflix queue
pretty sure the reason i didn't think they did it was because the description of the movie said "romantic potential" (iirc) and i wrongly assumed that meant that they had not fully explored their romantic potential

i like stories that leave things unresolved and incomplete. it was nice for a minute to think that their connection was not fully realized physically.

"I remember that night better than I do entire years"

feeling this

re: that song -- i loved the scene in the record store
it perfectly captured something, idk what it was exactly -- i guess it was the romantic potential i was hoping for!

my God you ppl and these lameass movies

"eet ees a nice fantasy. meet a French girl on a trenn and fuck her"

^I applauded in the theater in '95

that's what i was afraid of w this movie -- lame american boy gets what he wants (appealing french girl he meets on the train)
i guess it wasn't too far off now that i know i was wrong about the boning

my take from these movies is it's two polarized philosophies on life conflated by love interest. julie is a pragmatic person who is invested in causes to better a world which she sees as terminally broken. Ethan is the dreamer (or a stand-in for Linklater), a romantic out of time. Clashes occur between them as Ethan is laid-back and has a relatively decent life and he's a bit apathetic. Not saying anything revelatory, but I saw a lot of truth in these movies

the third movie is an exercise in torture or boredom iirc

I liked the third one a lot but tbf I am pretty boring

I liked it too Simon, but seeing their relationship in such a fractured state was like drawing out blood

yeah he seemed very privileged -- not in a $$$ way just in a worldview way. the privilege of being a slacker, of being smelly/greasy and still having people find him attractive. show me a greasy BO-riddled woman who gets a romantic evening like this and then maybe i will like him a little more. he has everything and he is still not happy, why does he have to get her too!?

haha yeah, good point la lechera. I think he's the kind of guy who thinks he can have what he wants, but seems clueless af to get there

LL did you ever see 2 Days in Paris?

I loathed the third movie after loving the first two

xp - nope

I mean does he really get her?

I might just be being a stoopid romantic, and sure he gets her physically and emotionally for a night, but he basically falls for her and then they are separated.

Until the second movie, she will always be his "what if" and those can be fucking painful.

you're right, it's just that personally my sympathy for this guy is sub-zero
i am not a romantic!

although i do enjoy unexplored/unfulfilled romantic potential precisely because it is painful
life is full of those "what ifs" -- that's just the way it is

Jesse is a nicer version of his Reality Bytes character. The 90s had all sorts of these turnip, shitbag dream boys. I loved them all.

At least Celine has a personality and things to say in this movie.

Jesse was a fool from the start.

Jesse was a fool from the start.