Hillary Clinton: Classic or Dud?

oh HELL yeah

remote login failed, gonna have to make a trip down to the server room, probably be back up i dunno june, july, sorry, best i can do, i'm out of the office all spring

It’s what you see when you hit the site, so it’s real as of this moment

incredible

probably rebooting as a site that resells timeshare vacation contracts for pennies on the dollar. or something.

While we wait, check out http://verritt.com

jes' gonna leave this here

“I view it as a national security threat that the State Department has been so decimated, and I don’t know what will happen with the nomination of Mike Pompeo to become the next secretary of state, but the one small glimmer of hope is when he went into the CIA, he only brought two people with him and he really relied on the career intelligence people,” Clinton said.

“If he will rebuild the State Department, and start listening to those who have very valuable experience, maybe we can work ourselves out of this hole we’re in,” she continued.

https://splinternews.com/hillary-clinton-is-reportedly-eager-to-help-mike-pompeo-1825141301

the CIA is bad!!

Hillary Clinton: Stupid or Evil?

Both

If she's stupid, it's that specialized kind of stupidity that often strikes the very bright, by convincing them they know so much they must always be more right than anyone else.

Hillary Clinton: Stupid or Evil?

Both

Yeah aimless that’s part of it, which can lead to people being woefully out of touch with everyone else

more hubris than stupid

Is the State Department bad now?

How glib.

Hilary Clinton is in the process of helping Mike Pompeo become the highest diplomat in the world's most powerful country. He is an open islamophobe (and a bigot in various other ways) who has defended torture, wants to scrap the Iranian nuclear deal, and as CIA chief has met with conspiracy theorists pushing the theory that the phishing of democrat emails during the 2016 election was an inside job.

Yeah yeah yeah Pompeo is horrible but the glibness is in the splinternewz link. And jfc we know the quotes in the story dont constitute “helping him become...”.. Also “State Department is bad actually” is a take the extremely online left has been flirting with lately with Pareene’s help.

I mean it is bad obv. I'm not American though so not as keen on your imperial state

Definitely say more things.

Hilary Clinton is in the process of helping Mike Pompeo become the highest diplomat in the world's most powerful country.

― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver)

so who _is_ the highest-ranking diplomat in russia, anyway?

(how's _that_ for glib?)

state tends to be a diplomatic counterweight to military options which is presumably why trump admin gutted it

Hilary Clinton is in the process of helping Mike Pompeo become the highest diplomat in the world's most powerful country.

― Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver)

so who _is_ the highest-ranking diplomat in russia, anyway?

(how's _that_ for glib?)

― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, April 11, 2018 2:08 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sergey Lavrov

i should say i don't really know if that's why and he gutted like civil servant orgs and some of that is prob carelessness and some is general hostility to civil service. but traditionally u want more options than just which bombers to deploy.

Can’t be overstated how bad that article is. Pompeo sought help from Hillary and she said he should listen to real diplomats = “whoa Hillary loves Pompeo”.

i chuckled at "extremely online left"

It’s the old resistance canard: That it’s worse for Trump and his cronies to make the government less functional and more chaotic than it is for the fascist #Drumpf regime to have an efficient, well-oiled machine to enact its awful ideas. It is terrible that so many career diplomats have left the State Department but I have no idea how even a fully-staffed department under Pompeo would improve America or the world in the slightest.

god this writer is a fuckin' idiot

i wonder how many of the cynical clickbait twitter leftists writing and retweeting this bullshit could actually give you a detailed explanation of how anything works in the federal government

its sad some will never make it as a jr narc

fuck all cops and squares forever!!!

i mean fuck cops for real but that piece is awful

i'm prepared to be called a centrist for this

I have no strong feelings on this. Pompeo is slime but there's nothing at all surprising or noteworthy for HC to be taking his calls.

The proof that feds like me are scum is that I didn’t quit my job last year and go work for... Facebook?

The left adopting the “large bureaucracies are all terrible” posture is pretty fucking stupid in both the short and long term

the Angry Samoans may have been on to something

If the aim of the trv kvlt cassette only left (not neoliberal scum) is socialism in the US is there a implementation of socialism that doesn't include large govt bureaucracies?

are left wing podcasts available on cassette?

yeah dude check discogs

I would wager said kvltists are by and large more disgusted with how said bureacracies have been wielded by both major parties to the material disadvantage of the average citizen, not to mention citizens abroad, than the notion of bureaucracy itself.

Oh, well, that certainly seems like an important distinction for the pompous assholes who identify with that belief set.

“Somebody should ensure everyone is treated fairly!”

“Not me though! Fuck a government job!”

I'll pass on to the mods at antifa.org that you're one of the good ones.

Thanks : )

ah, look, this isn't even a hard argument for a socialist revolutionary to make. the problem is that the existing bureaucracies are ideologically in service of oppression of The People. obviously the solution is to get rid of the Oppressors' Bureacracies and replace them with institutions dedicated to liberating The People from their Oppressors.

this isn't a novel line of argument, and as to whether people will buy the same old bullshit all over again, well, they already are, aren't they?

this thread has become very intangible

xp and yet by nearly any measure quality of life has improved as those bureaucracies have proliferated soooooo

Definitely need more dirtbag leftists at OSHA to run the checklists on those chemical plants.

Also Dan S otm I think?

honestly is it really so much worse than the alternatives

Now you sound like a garden variety libertarian

I meant re thread derailment lol

OK now we share a lol