US Politics, February 2018: Our country was founded by geniuses, but it’s being run by idiots

President’s got some deep thoughts

Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation. Some are true and some are false. Some are old and some are new. There is no recovery for someone falsely accused - life and career are gone. Is there no such thing any longer as Due Process?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 10, 2018

where's the birth certificate?

There is no recovery for someone falsely accused - life and career are gone.

Guess he's gonna resign. Good work, everyone!

the gaslighting that gives conservatism its pride of place in debate has a lot longer history than decades

I mean look at Utnapishtim’s “advice” to Gilgamesh

joy reid is the best

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republican-rule-week-55-there-is-no-bottom-to-this-bottom?ref=author

This seems like a plausible two-dimensional space. pic.twitter.com/f3ze1FoIet

— Kieran Healy (@kjhealy) February 10, 2018

biggest problem there is that many of them in it for money AND racism

far too generous to mcmaster, milo, don jr, etc.

joy reid is the best

words I thought I'd never see on ILE.

oooof

There is no recovery for someone falsely accused - life and career are gone.

Hopeful words from a man who falsely accused every Democrat in Congress of treason for not applauding his speech.

i don't really have an opinion about joy reid (i try to avoid MSNBC and "don't even have a tv" so it's pretty easy), but apparently she is a Heroine of the Resistance, so that's good

She is a benevolent, often excellent reciter of received wisdom

^

Joy-Ann Reid is awful.

Let us never forget

Donald Trump married one American (his second wife) and two women from what used to be Soviet Yugoslavia: Ivana-Slovakia, Melania-Slovenia.

— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) July 21, 2017

Bannon's professed pleasure at being compared to Darth Vader aside, I don't think anybody's striving for "notoriety." More like they want the adoration of deplorables.

lmao I had forgotten that tweet. legend

eh she's awful like Justin Timberlake is, I guess: she's so obvious and silly that she's too easily underrated too.

If Joy Reid is "awful" what word is used to describe her cable news peers who don't get the facts right? Breathless hyperbole is the baseline for cable news.

she is probably one of the least terrible really but man I don't know how anyone can watch that shit for more than 3 minutes

this would be the same fact-enthusiast joy reid who was tweeting about russia being a communist country in 2017, one assumes

2016, sorry

That said, for most Americans it's shocking to see an American presidential candidate openly touting authoritarian, communist Russia...

— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) September 9, 2016

joy reid is the bestest

Most Americans are addicted to adjectives, so I'll forgive "communist" when "authoritarian" is enough.

i am the least qualified person to nitpick but "authoritarian" isn't very specific, either (christians are authoritarians, for example)

fair enough, it had only been 25 years since russia parted ways with communism when she tweeted that xp

trump has more twitter thoughts:

"Republicans want to fix DACA far more than the Democrats do. The Dems had all three branches of government back in 2008-2011, and they decided not to do anything about DACA. They only want to use it as a campaign issue. Vote Republican!"

despotic would be good, but only 20% of americans would know the word

(christians are authoritarians, for example)

km what do you mean by this?

I mind her Russo-phobia less than the conventionality of her condemnation of Trump.

I dunno personally I'm not looking for "unconventional" in how network news goes after Trump, for chrissakes the basics of his transgressions are lost on 40%

the blunt weapon has its place

off-topic but, iirc, all Christians accept the authority of God/Jesus over their lives. They can't all agree on how that authority is manifested, but they all agree the universe is structured with an authoritative all-powerful god running the whole show and with themselves subservient to Him and whatever mercy or grace He deigns to grant them.

Given the failure of Reid to do anything but line her pockets in opposition to Trump, maybe find an edged weapon?

MSNBC bopping him with their foam swords doesn't seem to be doing much.

the good is the enemy of the perfect

White guy reporter/writer/commentator Chris Hayes is the only one I can stand on MSNBC, which gets me in trouble with Reid fans.

(christians are authoritarians, for example)

km what do you mean by this?

― Entrepreneurial Jism Unshackler (Hadrian VIII)

off-topic but, iirc, all Christians accept the authority of God/Jesus over their lives. They can't all agree on how that authority is manifested, but they all agree the universe is structured with an authoritative all-powerful god running the whole show and with themselves subservient to Him and whatever mercy or grace He deigns to grant them.

― A is for (Aimless)

yep, basically what aimless said. put less eloquently, if you just replace every instance of the word "god" or "lord" with "our benevolent all-knowing leader who rules from a secret mountain bunker in Idaho", you might be startled by all the people who claim to pledge themselves to this person above all other people or things.

and yeah, off topic. sorry.

Chris Hayes is the only one I can stand on MSNBC,

same

sorta back on topic -- as alt-righties (not entirely ironically) call 2scoops (in muddled homage to frank herbert) "god emperor", while indie-lefties cavil about powerless MSNBC

xpost

White guy reporter/writer/commentator Chris Hayes is the only one I can stand on MSNBC, which gets me in trouble with Reid fans.

he also pretty openly (and usually pretty ineptly) courts weird/left twitter a bit, which I always find funny. (never actually seen him on the teevee)

xps you guys come on this is not the same as christians are authoritarians. why wouldn't that apply to ANY monotheistic belief system (and many others)?

"off topic" is a good thing in this thread everyone, keep it up

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f7c6b7ada959b6058b410a9692026da2/tumblr_mtcs9zINSL1qc52lxo2_r1_500.gif

in this totally on-topic post about politics, i make a point about MSNBC but also///

why wouldn't that apply to ANY monotheistic belief system (and many others)?

yeah, it would apply to a lot of belief systems. not all. i specified christianity because it's the religion i'm most familiar with, and it's the dominant religion of the united states. i didn't name others because if i did, the question would then become "why did you name only a, b, and c, when it also applies to x, y, and z?"

///and that's why the 2018 elections are going to be important, imo

she is probably one of the least terrible really but man I don't know how anyone can watch that shit for more than 3 minutes

― Simon H., Saturday, February 10, 2018 2:05 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me too. i will leave rooms/sit in uncomfortable bits of airports, etc. to avoid it. i signed up for yelp to complain about a doctor because they had cable news on in the waiting room.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-02-09/has-anyone-seen-the-president

Fox News fills both screens. Bannon enters, takes one look at the scene and says, “Can we change it to CNN? My brain already hurts.” He advised a president who couldn’t take his eyes off cable news, but he himself detests it. “I can’t watch a second of it,” he says. “Zero.”

I don't see a lot of daylight btw Chris Hayes and Joy Reid/R Maddow, they are all (imo understandably) excitable atm but going way, way deeper into weeds of Trump stuff than any of their TV peers. Feels like some ppl have a misplaced expectation of sobriety from 24 hr cable news. (Maddow for her part has refused on principle and w/ some consistency to take Trump twitter bait and lead with what he's doing as opposed to saying. Considering the medium she is doing a great deal of detailed and original reporting on Russia in particular.)

Like when she literally listed all the Russians going to Davos?