Mission: Impossible

Ought I to go straight to rogue nation and see how well it sits with me before sampling the others?

First one is a good starting point then three to five in order if it lands imo

imo you could start with any of them as long as you grasp the basic premise

imo the thing that's the most wild about the second one, other than it being a misfire in tone, is that Dougray Scott was stuck on the set because the production went long, and was replaced by Hugh Jackman in the X-Men film

lots of opinions today, sorry lads

i tend to think of the first three as standalone films in a way, they all present vv different Ethan Hunts and they're each in service to the style of the director (DePalma's more Hitchcockian flair, Woo's OTT doves and duality thing, JJ Abrams' expensive TV pilot trademark) whereas 4 and 5 feel a bit more in line w/each other and 6 feels like the first direct sequel to the previous installment.

i would start w/4 tbh (not a judgement on the first three, not completely, i just prefer the last couple.)

Dougray Scott i actually think was extremely good in MI2, he made for a vv good despicable villain. he'd probably have rather ended up with Hugh Jackman's career obv.

most definitely

ironically, of the three, Tom Cruise is the only one with the right height to play Wolverine as envisioned in comics

as long as you grasp the basic premise

my sense of the basic M:I premise is that it aligns with the usual premise of spy/cloak and dagger entertainments, which is that the viewer has entered a fantastic world that superficially resembles current reality, but where no rules apply, the villains have limitless ambitions and resources, and the heroes have almost as few constraints as the villains do, because as ever, the world hangs in the balance. the good guys always win, but the outcome is in doubt to the final moments.

that about right?

there's an agency called the IMF

they do impossible missions

this message will self-destruct in ten seconds

oh, right. no worries. I saw dozens of the original series on a b&w cathode ray tube TV back when it was new, and the opening the theme music is still burned into my synapses.

wow the new one looks gorgeous

ok, I just watched the trailer

McQuarrie truly understands that what we want to see is Cruise running into things at high speed. Finally, someone who gets it

I also just discovered that there is an Imagine Dragons song that has an opening riff that sounds a lot like the Mission Impossible theme that they interpolated into the theme in the trailer, which... is about perfect for 2018 imo

Could def treat 4 as a reset and start there alright

http://www.youtube.com/watch?151=&v=XiHiW4N7-bo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiHiW4N7-bo&t=1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiHiW4N7-bo&t=

ugh anyway new trailer!

I'm still waiting for one of these movies to fulfill the promise of its title, with Cruise just resignedly sighing mid-mission and saying, 'sorry, guys, this one just isn't possible.'

guys never ever forget

ethan hunt is

the living manifestation

of destiny

the greatest line, delivery, theme and foreshadowing of a future end-of-days fantasy that has ever been

otm

I haven’t been more excited for an action film since Mad Max Fury Road.

same. i’ve rewatched the first four over the past few weeks

if i contributed to 2’s bad rep in the past i apologize

Mega stoked for this

loved two first time round but every subsequent watch it got more and more a parody of everything that made john woo quite awful

two is ok but it's from some alternate universe where the series was going to be about experiments in tone by different directors and not a spy caper/chase scene rollercoaster

dmac otm, hollywood never really seemed to know what to do with him (the immortal face/off excepted obv)

I was looking forward to this but some of the reviews (incl some of the positive ones) make it sound pretty tiresome tbh

2 is just bad, guys. It's just bad. The rest pretty much own.

fuckin' dougray scott ruins everything, the prick

two is a freaking gun and motorbike opera. it’s great. who gives a shit if it’s tonally dissonant with the rest of the series

mind you his appearance in mi2 saved us from the horrifying prospect of a dougray scott wolverine so it's not all bad

it’s got its problems but imo not as many as mi:iii

I'm less concerned with 2's tonal dissonance than I am with the fact that it's real bad.

never mind it's bad and i'm wrong

It's not an easy thing to admit, but I salute you.

It's kind of the Halloween 3 of the franchise. It probably should've just been its own thing, in which case I would be less likely to harshly judge it alongside an array of movies that rule.

Jeffrey Wells loves this one, so run for your lives

I thought "Rogue Nation" was a big letdown after Brad Bird's take. Just felt TV movie-like and mechanical. So I'm surprised same director, etc on this one getting raves.

rogue nation is

by some distance

the best MI

iii is what you said. but for some reason it was hugely overrated

in order of good:

v rogue nation
i just mi
vi ghost protocol
iii just iii
2 why a number

havent seen new one but bet its in top 2

also unofficial mi movies knight and day and jack reacher would slot in above iii in that ranking

bg correct about face/off which is bigger than mere ranking, it is the actual tetsuofication of an entire genre

I wasn't talking iii -- Brad Bird's was "Ghost Protocol" which is infinitely more fun and stylish than "Rogue Nation". By some distance.

Knight and Day is awful

otm, ghost protocol is rad af, brad bird should be forced into live-action directing forever imo xp

all wrong god help me all wrong and what a mess

ghost protocol is fine, but it has all kind of inverted emphasis.typically the weird stunts and physical stuff are supposed to be in service of the caper part, and the most memorable action scenes to me are the cars falling at the end, cruise doing all kinds of acrobatics to get out of jail. neither of which is directly caper-related!

the actual caper parts are like trying to distract the indian businessman and slowly rolling a decoy rig through a hallway