Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

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imo the worst ep is the one with Leland's wake, that's the one where Cooper unequivocally says "Leland didn't do these things" (although even then coop has been shown to be wrong about everything), previous to that it was ambiguous but leaning towards it's Leland

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:11 (eight years ago)

i didn't mean to be rude, they're not tedious, i'm saying i agree with you on almost everything, as do most people. opinions only diverge on the finale. no disrespect xp

flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:12 (eight years ago)

lol I don't take offense that easily dont worry

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:14 (eight years ago)

I don't think it's anything personal; Twin Peaks fans have bonded over our shared suffering through the Evelyn and James subplot for the better part of three decades by now

xxxp

one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:14 (eight years ago)

https://welcometotwinpeaks.com/wp-content/uploads/dale-cooper-go-seahawks.jpg

flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:15 (eight years ago)

my bf let out a sigh of genuine anguish every time james appeared on screen, p much from the beginning.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:17 (eight years ago)

another q re finale, why do they introduce sexually voracious but with car trouble german waitress heidi?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:20 (eight years ago)

She was in the pilot

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:21 (eight years ago)

In an almost identical scene

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:22 (eight years ago)

She is jolly and randy

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:22 (eight years ago)

Callback to the pilot (the dialogue is repeated verbatim), and a way of gesturing toward an unsettling cyclicality before Sarah Palmer comes in with her otherworldly message; either that, or Lynch just liked the actor and character.

one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:22 (eight years ago)

xxp

one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:23 (eight years ago)

oh ok, I had forgotten her. I guess that is very "Lynch"

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:23 (eight years ago)

There are a lot of returns in that last ep, its kind of a theme

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:24 (eight years ago)

anyway plax, imagine sitting through the one or two movies James Marshall starred in after TP bcz producers somehow thought he could do that.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:14 (eight years ago)

Marshall was boldly cast against type as a pouty lackwit in A FEW GOOD MEN neva 4get

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:17 (eight years ago)

xp Cmon how could this fail?

Important brief-case is stolen from the mob boss Vinny. His assistant Kelly must quickly react and he hires two small-time crooks to follow the rival mobster. One of the men is hard core criminal, the other is an amateur.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:20 (eight years ago)

all in sheryl lee's and lara flynn boyle's expressions


Just to test the waters of Brad-wins simpatico, another absolutely amazing and weirdly unpopular scene from this stretch of episodes is the glasses scene between these two in the diner

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:46 (eight years ago)

.... that scene is unpopular????

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:48 (eight years ago)

Well people hate the Donna character turn (a lot of twin peaks fans have Boyle issues)

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:50 (eight years ago)

But those two are incredible in that scene

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:50 (eight years ago)

these are all season two episode one scenes right? so much happens in that episode

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:54 (eight years ago)

The song is s2 ep 2

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:55 (eight years ago)

ah i figured, those episodes always mix together in my head (s2ep1 maddie screams at the floor, s2ep2 maddie screams at bob who climbs over the furniture toward her)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:56 (eight years ago)

(i think, lol)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:57 (eight years ago)

anyway i feel like people generally have more issues with donna seducing james in his jail cell than her scene with maddie at the diner. i love both

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:57 (eight years ago)

My friend waited until the DVD release to watch the return and told me that he was gonna prepare himself by watching fwwm and the missing pieces and rewatching the finale - I told him that was a really good strategy but to also rewatch the first 2 eps of season 2

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:00 (eight years ago)

i said this in... one of the many twin peaks threads, but i completely forgot about the hayward/palmer dinner scene in s2e1 (i think?)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:03 (eight years ago)

Yeah the credits to the s2 premiere play over Alicia Witt playing piano

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:04 (eight years ago)

it's such a great scene too

any scene where ray wise is making everyone uncomfortable with his grief is a great scene generally

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:05 (eight years ago)

Yeah - & it goes without saying but especially in retrospect

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:06 (eight years ago)

The diner scene is such a touchstone for me and also the scene I most flashed on when I saw people using the very limited metrics of #prestigetv to determine the wokeness or whatever of the return: does this character have agency beep boop do they display interiority boop blorp nuance shading ER-ROR ER-ROR

When that simply isn't what this filmmaker is up to: what I love about that scene is how it demonstrates a key lynch thing where elements that ought to be discrete - personalities, identities, even events - are diffuse, a mood like the subjunctive. There aren't two clearly defined "characters" in that scene, there are several animating energies moving in the air between two actors

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:34 (eight years ago)

that's a great observation

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:36 (eight years ago)

I agree tbh! That scene gave me a way of seeing that I've fruitfully applied to all lynch, partic inland empire; it's my equivalent of yr I've figured it out medium post theory crafting (I even recorded a podcast about it at the time lol)

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:51 (eight years ago)

just wanna say i think the bomb in the safety deposit box is hilarious, it's the end of moby-dick

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:34 (eight years ago)

are you looking for secrets?

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:35 (eight years ago)

James' forehead is so high he looks like one of the aliens in This Island Earth

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:01 (eight years ago)

He looks like zoolander drawn in the style of beavis and/or butthead

scrüt (wins), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:10 (eight years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/A7pvUUz_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

scrüt (wins), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:12 (eight years ago)

lol u were right i do hate the new one. I'm quitting now.

plax (ico), Sunday, 4 February 2018 19:04 (eight years ago)

He looks like zoolander drawn in the style of beavis and/or butthead

― scrüt (wins), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:10 (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh shit truthiest of bombs

Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 February 2018 19:09 (eight years ago)

Third-to-last episode of '91 last night... directed by Stephen Gyllenhaal (dad of Jake). I had forgotten Major Briggs was captured by his former UFO/netherworld investigator Earle. "I'm going for a walk in the woods" is a hilarious bluntshadowing on this show.

Cooper and Heather Graham trading Augustine and Heisenberg quotes made me chuckle.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 18:00 (eight years ago)

Gylenhaal's ep is easily the best of that late stretch (apart from the finale) - he can't save the cringeworthy windom shit but little touches that he apparently improvised on set, like the random hand shaking & the ominous track back as coop & annie are having said cute convo, are really effective

scrüt (wins), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 18:10 (eight years ago)

He's a poet, you know

scrüt (wins), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 18:11 (eight years ago)

I didn't!

Rewatch complete. Didn't recall the setup for the finale's bank explosion at all. As for the climactic setpiece in the Red Room, I don't know that I'm in love with it, tho it's likely the most surreal thing ever shown on network TV. The way the backwards-recorded dialogue makes everyone sound Swedish makes me wonder if Lynch was having a bit of a go at mocking Bergmanesque "symbolism," but probably not. (But there's a dwarf in The Silence.)

I don't think I can take FWWM again right now, so on to TP:TR.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 February 2018 14:37 (eight years ago)

Do not pass go

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:13 (eight years ago)

btw I'd never seen these before, let's hear it for Artistic Integrity lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ZRHjC5wGI

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:54 (eight years ago)

The episodes would've been so much richer if Lynch hadn't deleted those scenes imo.

Love Theme from Biodome (Old Lunch), Saturday, 17 February 2018 18:35 (eight years ago)

I don't think I can take FWWM again right now, so on to TP:TR.

on the one hand, I totally understand this, it's a brutal movie and probably should only be watched if you are in the right mood. On the other, re-watching the entire original run of TP would be a much more painful process for me. I don't have that kind of stamina and fortitude any more.

Moodles, Saturday, 17 February 2018 18:44 (eight years ago)

so for me, it's like shit, look what you already made it through!

Moodles, Saturday, 17 February 2018 18:45 (eight years ago)


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