as someone pointed out this should be followed by a times piece on dean baquet “shielding” glenn thrush, which happened, you know, LAST YEAR. i’m so over clinton as emmanuel goldstein
― maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 20:21 (eight years ago)
(the clinton “shielding” piece i mean)
I cannot take anyone seriously who still, STILL brings up Clinton. It's automatically a parody. The NYT needs to get their shit together.
― Yerac, Saturday, 27 January 2018 20:58 (eight years ago)
jfc guys, hillary clinton does not get a free pass for making a poor decision just because 90 percent of the things the media say about her are stupid, and it was not wrong of the NYT to report on this. if you disagree, ask yourself how you'd feel if the story were literally any other politician choosing not to fire a top adviser who'd sexually harassed someone.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:14 (eight years ago)
Yeah, you missed the point of what Maura was saying.
― Yerac, Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:17 (eight years ago)
yeah thanks for missing the point dude. hope you’re as hard on baquet. or any other number of men who also engaged in “shielding” but who haven’t been deemed the demon beast by right wing types.
― maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:19 (eight years ago)
i’m fine with more reporting on this. but the wealth could maybe be spread to people who are actually in office??
― maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:20 (eight years ago)
sorry i "missed the point," i guess, but i think thrush should have been fired too and i have no problem condemning the nyt for not doing that
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:25 (eight years ago)
yeah well maybe you should take a second and think about why the times might investigate clinton instead of *gestures at lots of men*
― maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:06 (eight years ago)
clinton derangement syndrome is real and at least some of its causes are intimately involved with all of the other shit in this thread
― maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:07 (eight years ago)
my guess as to why the times might investigate clinton is because she's very famous and positions herself as a defender of women's rights, so a story about how she failed a victim of sexual harassment might have some relevance
this does not negate any of your other, valid points tho of course
― k3vin k., Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:22 (eight years ago)
discrediting a private citizen who lost an election a year plus ago just seems a bit fishy timing wise but what do i know
― maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:30 (eight years ago)
(and who’s a woman)(like i know the man bites dog aspect but come on)
― maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:31 (eight years ago)
anyway wynn is building a casino here in MA and the gaming commission has announced an investigation of him
― maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:32 (eight years ago)
nicole eggert has been tweeting a lot about how her former CHARLES IN CHARGE costar scott baio took advantage of her as a teen
Ask @scottbaio what happened in his garage at his house when I was a minor. Creep. https://t.co/YrQydBKd0a— Nicole Eggert (@NicoleEggert) January 27, 2018
― maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:34 (eight years ago)
Didn't Erin Moran at least hint at some awfulness re: Baio? Or am I misremembering?
― Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Sunday, 28 January 2018 00:31 (eight years ago)
i don’t remember but i found this while lookinghttp://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-entertainment-news-updates-april-scott-baio-amends-callous-comments-made-1493133783-htmlstory.htmlFacing criticism for his comments, Baio first took to Twitter to build his defense on the fact that he said "if you use drugs and alcohol," before moving on to blame critics for only hating him because of his support for the president.🙄
― maura, Sunday, 28 January 2018 03:49 (eight years ago)
three more women have come out with allegations against jeremy pivenhttps://www.buzzfeed.com/krystieyandoli/jeremy-piven-sexual-misconduct-allegations-follow-up
― maura, Sunday, 28 January 2018 14:24 (eight years ago)
I am reading Scott Baio's response to Eggert and he is only burying himself further.
― Yerac, Sunday, 28 January 2018 15:04 (eight years ago)
Seems like the MAGA goons are defending him full force
― President Keyes, Sunday, 28 January 2018 15:31 (eight years ago)
Well, yeah. How can America get great again without Scott Baio?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 January 2018 15:50 (eight years ago)
i mean they pretty much have shown that they’re ok with whatever happens to women as long as they can cling by their fingernails to whatever power they still have
― maura, Sunday, 28 January 2018 16:05 (eight years ago)
^^ otm ^^
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 28 January 2018 21:47 (eight years ago)
HRC just responded to the NYT story:
https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/posts/1811310308925490
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 03:45 (eight years ago)
Alex Press in Vox (!) on "carceral feminism"
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/2/1/16952744/me-too-larry-nassar-judge-aquilina-feminism
― Simon H., Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:09 (eight years ago)
Leaping off that article to the below, which is one of the saddest things I have read recently. I seriously did not know how bad sex trafficking is in the US where men are paying to have sex with children because they just can't pass up an opportunity that presents itself??? And that the justice system has no real way to prosecute them when the victims are traumatized/abused children who are unreliable witnesses and it's hard to prove that the men didn't know they were underaged.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/nation-now/2018/01/30/sex-trafficking-column/1073459001/
― Yerac, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:57 (eight years ago)
Upenn revoking honorary degrees from Steve Wynn and, in a timely fashion, Bill Cosby.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:39 (eight years ago)
In future all honorary degrees will be rigged to self-destruct (triggered remotely by the university's board, as needed).
― I'm my own emotional support animal (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:58 (eight years ago)
they can't all be upstanding citizens who not only coach and win a lot of games involving a leather ball but also have enough time to shield a child molester.
― omar little, Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:01 (eight years ago)
that sex trafficking piece is in a tight race with the Splinter health care piece from yesterday for upsetting stories, yes
― Simon H., Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:03 (eight years ago)
please revoke every degree given to james franco
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:04 (eight years ago)
v weird seeing stuff with franco that was taped before the golden globes still going up weeks later. mainly thinking of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egzvLWeMK_U&
― flappy bird, Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:28 (eight years ago)
Robert Wagner. i hold out hope that one of these mf'ing men admit to what they have done.
― Yerac, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:20 (eight years ago)
i hope my alma mater does the same with cosby, who received his degree the year i got my bachelors
― maura, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:24 (eight years ago)
wagner? are we talking about natlie wood?
― akm, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:44 (eight years ago)
yep: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/natalie-wood-death-robert-wagner-person-of-interest-says-investigator/?linkId=47633160
― maura, Friday, 2 February 2018 01:46 (eight years ago)
i was a little glum earlier when i thought they were talking about james garner rather than robert wagner
― j., Friday, 2 February 2018 02:52 (eight years ago)
― Simon H., Thursday, February 1, 2018 9:09 AM
interesting article. I think most reasonable people would agree that we should be cautious about throwing more people in jail as a result of expanding definitions of gendered offenses, but it doesn’t really seem like that is imminent here in the US. for now the biggest issue seems to be creating an environment where women feel safe reporting crimes committed against them
― k3vin k., Friday, 2 February 2018 13:56 (eight years ago)
that article seems to be more focused on existing problems rather than warning about possible future ones. ppl being evicted, trapped in their jobs, abused by police and so on are clearly pretty big issues
― ogmor, Friday, 2 February 2018 15:12 (eight years ago)
The takeaway that I got from the article is that since the justice system tends to mostly work for certain crimes and for people of a certain class/race/gender, as much as some of us would love to lock up or fine sexual predators/harassers this is not practical. Instead we have to address wealth inequality, the patriarchy, power inequality between the sexes. Which I agree with.
― Yerac, Friday, 2 February 2018 15:44 (eight years ago)
whats going on w Rose McGowan? apparently she was heckled by a trans activist and decided she doesn't want the stress and now people are dragging her on Twitter for not wanting to put herself in this abusive situation. people are acting like she owes them something. it is pretty sad.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 February 2018 01:26 (eight years ago)
http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/rose-mcgowan-cancels-appearances-1202686011/
Yeah I see the usual twitter assholes calling her a TERF
― President Keyes, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:01 (eight years ago)
the stuff she said looks bad in print but on the video it seems like a reaction to being shouted at for quite awhile
― President Keyes, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:11 (eight years ago)
woe betide the half-woke
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:17 (eight years ago)
woe betide the half-woke...
― flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:49 (eight years ago)
the real battle then becomes: who gets to define the all-woke and half-woke, combined with the fierce rise of the woker-than-thou.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:03 (eight years ago)
ain't no such thing as halfway woke
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:44 (eight years ago)
there absolutely is
― flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:46 (eight years ago)
happens to me every morning