Right, so recovering the work of underappreciated or effaced female directors is one strategy, elaborating critical concepts to do justice to other aspects of filmmaking is another; they're not necessarily contradictory.
xxp
― one way street, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
Ah, I get it now.
― Cherish, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link
So Elia Kazan is not for tankies?
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:11 (six years ago) link
https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/touchofevildi.jpg2. Orson Welles(1957 points; 24 votes)https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/3530.jpg1. Alfred Hitchcock(2399.5 points; 28 votes; 2 firstplace votes)
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:15 (six years ago) link
i'm leaving to drink at Marlene Dietrich's place, so bye
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:16 (six years ago) link
450 points clear!
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:17 (six years ago) link
S&S much? xxp
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:17 (six years ago) link
Not for the comrades Alfred.
Thanks Eric for running the poll. The Caps were wonderful. Appreciate the good work.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:18 (six years ago) link
Von Sternberg was the highest placing director on my ballot to miss the top 101 here.
Huston, for me.
Eric, this thread is magnificent. Thank you!
― Cherish, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link
Thanks, Eric.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link
Thank you for running the poll! Salut!
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― Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link
Yes, thanks, Eric!
― one way street, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link
yes, this poll was great! I'm going to use it as a reference for further exploration
― Dan S, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:25 (six years ago) link
Bottom up.
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― jmm, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:26 (six years ago) link
Thanks, Eric.Wish Shohei Imamura would have made it.
― Chris L, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link
Good job, Eric.
Reasonable job, everyone else.
― emil.y, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:30 (six years ago) link
Thanks Eric, really enjoyed this!
― devvvine, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:33 (six years ago) link
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― Haribo Hancock (sic), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link
I’ll make with the stats and full spreadsheet later this evening. I will say that maybe only about half of people’s number one choices made the list, which is tragic but what’re gonna do?
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link
Great job Eric! Thank you for doing this. Hitchcock was my #1, Bergman my #2.
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link
i didn't vote but i would have voted for Wes Anderson
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― omar little, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:40 (six years ago) link
well i'm glad you didn't
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link
what's the image for welles? it's not loading for me for some reason
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link
you're welcome
― omar little, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link
No, the point of this should be to fume that #35 beat #48 or whatever.
― Chris L, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:43 (six years ago) link
Yeah, the Welles image won't load for me either. 404 error when I try to open in a new tab.
Thanks for running this poll, Eric! Really enjoyed it, and there are already a dozen changes I wish I'd made on my ballot.
― WilliamC, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link
yeah this was an awesome poll
i'm p much ok with the top 4 as is
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link
I will say that maybe only about half of people’s number one choices made the list, which is tragic but what’re gonna do?
Eh, there's a great big world of film out there, and ILXors have diverse tastes. Although did no one else vote for William A. Wellman (my #1)?
― Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link
Well the right one won
― hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link
Eric this was great you've made me stay up too late all week, thamks
― hell is auteur people (Noodle Vague), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link
Oh whoa Wes Anderson didn’t even place, hell yeah
― flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
awesome stuff Eric, thanks for the work.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:08 (six years ago) link
George Miller was robbedhttp://motorcycleboy.fr/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Toecutter.gif
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:11 (six years ago) link
thanks Eric you’re the best
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:12 (six years ago) link
Touch of Evil. I’ll mod request
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:13 (six years ago) link
The top ten was unimpeachable
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link
Yang and Ophuls are the choices you guys have made me curious about.
I really wish there were more overviews like Cousins tv version of Story Of Film (after which I bought 4 Parajanov films I admired more than enjoyed). I generally haven't liked the really cineastey directors enough to delve very far but I just know I'm missing something. Everyone is always missing lots but I'd like a better idea of what I'm missing and there's not a lot of opportunities unless you really dive in and it's not a high enough priority for me to do that (I'm trying to watch less films but I want the quality to be better).
Any youtube channels regularly discussing or excerpting this type of director would be great.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:24 (six years ago) link
rad thread eric enjoyed it bunches
renoir and ford placements pretty absurd and also imo wilder should not be here at all but rly surprised+delighted to see welles so high. love lots of the middle and later stuff. mr arkadin, chimes at midnight, the trial, f for fake, even that shoestring macbeth. (lady from shanghai not all that great to watch in my experience.) he's a strange kind of bridge between old hollywood and post60s indiedom, the same way he's a bridge between "high" and "low": the most shakespearean american filmmaker but also the most like p.t. barnum, always a showman, always (to his chagrin) a hustler. and so miserably #iconic in decline, cursing houseman.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:25 (six years ago) link
would love to see some kind of restoration of it's all true. have never seen the 1993 doc even.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link
orson would've been my no. 1, he's endlessly interesting and prob has at least five flat-out masterpieces to his name (which is a p good record when you've only completed about a dozen films). really even if he'd only directed the first half-hour of ambersons he'd prob deserve a place on the list.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:29 (six years ago) link
The Renoir ranking still uh rankles
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link
this poll finally made me pull the trigger on the hitch Blu-ray box
― Simon H., Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link
nice!! hope that includes Shadow of a Doubt
― flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link
hitch is a good committee #1 because while he would never be mine, if someone asked me what a movie is i'd show them notorious
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:37 (six years ago) link
Shadow of a Doubt might be my 2nd favorite film ever. i posted a very high quality youtube rip upthread, last night i think, besides being so thematically rich and beguiling and full of great performances, there's something completely intoxicating about it that I've only encountered in a handful of films ever.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:37 (six years ago) link
No room, Sebastian.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:38 (six years ago) link
First-place vote getters that placed outside the top 101:
Roy Andersson (#110)Vera Chytilova (#132)George Miller (#138)
And, tied at #232:
Joe DanteHarun FarockiShin'ya TsukamotoWilliam Wellman
I was wrong about more first-place votes being outside the top 101 ... there were a reasonably high number of unranked ballots too, but more #1s did make it.
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link
I like Notorious but I have a huge Cary Grant problem. Need to watch that one again, love for it is pretty intense everywhere.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:39 (six years ago) link
joe cotton shoulda played more heels (also idiots, like my beloved holly)
not that his part in shadow's a straightforward heel.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link
I tried, George ;_;
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 January 2018 00:41 (six years ago) link