Young Kirk n Spock + Lost = new Star Trek movie

The kid playing Chekov seemed very annoying, but that wasn't a major problem.

He was supposed to be chirpily annoying, though. Classic 17-year-old.

Chekov's pretty annoying in the original series tbh

vhat is zis Monkees bandvagon onto vhich I am jumpink?

yeah, chekov is easily the worst of the original cast. which is basically flawless besides him.

seems like a nice dude irl, tho.

walter koenig, that is.

"yeah, chekov is easily the worst of the original cast. which is basically flawless besides him."

Wha? Why the chekov hate?

I dug Chekov in the movies, don't really remember him in the series.

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haha, chekov is pretty funny in khan, yeah.

http://bensbreakfastblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/chekov-ear.jpg

I guess I don't hate him or anything but I'd rather just rather have sulu in all of his scenes instead. if memory serves, sulu missed most of season 2 because he went off to film a movie or something that nobody remembers. so, chekov got all of those parts.

chekov's just kinda the least interesting of the supporting crew - he doesn't have any goofy specialty or defining characteristics apart from the "novelty" of being Russian. And having a Beatles haircut.

You want him to have more hobbies, like drinking or something?

lolz I dunno he's not a terrible character or anything he's just not very interesting, he's the least fully fleshed out of the supporting crew

sure, why not

The only "fleshing out" of the support crew is, as far as I can remember:

Scotty likes to read tech manuals
Uhura likes singing
Sulu likes guns & fencing

Not too much meat for these dudes either.

sulu missed most of season 2 because he went off to film a movie

hmmm, not "most" I don't think. he was in The Green Berets w/ John Wayne!

ha! I stand corrected!

xposts: now way can you hate on Pavel Chekhov! The man is ballast. Earnest, duty-bound ballast. It's nice to have a character who doesn't always know exactly what's going on, who can sub in for the audience somewhat. I love him.

ok

I thought the new Chekov was pretty cool.

Also about complaining about sound in space movies; they didn't stop it 50 years ago, i don't think they're going to stop just yet.

ok - about the Romulans. if the star right next to your home planet is about to go supernova - would you not, i dunno, maybe evacuate some people somewhere safe? i know Spock is awesome and all and was on his way with some red goo to save the day - but really? everyone just hung around waiting for either Spock or death?

Well, they're all 90s tribal tats and piercings, it's not like they have common sense.

also: why is a mining ship so heavily armed?

xpost - ha ha - true. i bet they enjoy listening to the Spin Doctors too.

They think Trent Reznor is really deep.

so whoever said this was good fanfic was totally otm. i loved the casting, i loved the lens flare, i loved how they split the difference by getting as many dork in-joeks in as they could while also gleefully destroying the timeline. fuck "continuity" and all that fanboy bullshit. it was funny and exciting and basically non-dickish throughout.

still suffered from bad fast action cutting and lazy plotting but who actually cares? this movie is abt doing some fun stuff with some beloved, well-worn characters in a way that non-fans and fans who aren't retarded can enjoy.

also imo dude playin kirk stole the movie, i thought he was hilarious and awesome.

in the last scene, he totally turned on this shatner delivery and stride all of a sudden

yeah since the entire movie was about dorkin out at that point i loved it.

oh also forget to mention that eric bana sucked but that shouldn't be a shocka

watching khan again last night - which is by far not a perfect movie - reminded me of how much this movie needed a good villain.

i don't think eric bana was bad at all, the character he played just happened to be run-of-the-mill

Will this wind up being the highest-grossing Star Trek movie of all time? Seems likely to me.

i think it already is, actually!

I can't even remember who the villains were for I, III, or IV. Did they have villains?

3 was Christopher Lloyd the Klingon. I and IV didn't have villains other than environmental catastrophe.

the villains was US.

Oh right, Christopher Lloyd. He was a big step down after Montalban.

watching khan again last night - which is by far not a perfect movie - reminded me of how much this movie needed a good villain.

so otm. The best villains were all total hams and really helped hold the movies together - Montalban in Khan, Lloyd in III, Plummer in VI. yeah there is no real villain in IV (still a pretty good one). TMP is basically just eye candy, no villain required.

I think the borg lady from VIII was pretty good, and malcolm mcd had his moments in VII.

I will admit to kind of liking the religious nut in V even though that movie is terrible.

i want to see them MATCHING WITS. only thing bana had was a bigger ship.

I think the borg lady from VIII was pretty good, and malcolm mcd had his moments in VII.

Borg queen was the best TNG movie villain by a long shot (why they never brought Q back instead, I dunno). McD movie is unwatchable.

McD movie is unwatchable.

Movie, yes. McDowell himself could be a good villain in a better movie.

one of the weird things that this movie implies in terms of continuity is that (in the "real" timeline) both Kirk and Spock die in mysterious space accidents. kinda weird.

TMP is basically just eye candy, no villain required

I actually loved the concept and "villain" for TMP, the problem is more in the direction and execution of the film which just ruins the entire thing. The hashed-together script from Phase 1 parts doesn't help, either...

eh its just something nice to have on in the background, as an actual film it doesn't work at all

'fuck "continuity" and all that fanboy bullshit.'

Huh? This movie was built whole-cloth out of fanboy bullshit. They even respect shitty Scott Bakula Enterprise continuity.

This is the dog that Scotty vaporized that caused his exile to Vulcan ice moon gulag:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/342/porthosdog.jpg

xpost Shakey - But doesn't that (weird space accident deaths) feel somehow appropriate than being bested in battle for them?

yeah I suppose so it just seems like an odd coincidence (no one cares how Bones dies I guess)