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y'all can't be sure if michael used a real good place orientation video for the neighborhood or if he made a fake one

That doesn't matter, the point is that Chidi and Eleanor believed it.

The video doesn't say anything about right or wrong action. It only talks about evaluating actions in terms of amounts of good and bad. It also doesn't say that any given action or type of action always carries the same value, although that would be consistent with a form of consequentialism too.

One thing the video does tells its viewers unequivocally is that deontological views of morality are all wrong.

― JRN, 17. januar 2018 02:54 (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It says that the woman got points for doing the same thing 1800 times, so yeah, it says it's always the same.

Tbf, Michael's example in the video = pulling into a breakdown lane when there IS traffic and thinking "no one's watching" (meaning, I think, that no police officer is watching), which is a little different from running a red light in the middle of the night when no one else is on the road. Idk how exactly it would map onto consequentialism vs deontology, though.

(although I think I have a better idea of what those words mean now)

*kills self*

It says that the woman got points for doing the same thing 1800 times, so yeah, it says it's always the same.

― Frederik B, Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:20 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The video does not say that that action, or any other, has the same value every time it's done. It does show things like "Rescued pit bull(x16): 422,561" or whatever, but that doesn't mean that all 16 of those were equally good. It could just mean she did it 16 times and that was the cumulative value. But again, either way, the message of the video would still be consistent with consequentialism and inconsistent with deontology.

Where does everyone stand on the net karmic value of sandwiches?

Worth less than 0.5% of the value of:

Began to compose a social media post on the death of David Bowie and then thought, "the world doesn't need to hear my thoughts on David Bowie".

i have high hopes for their trip through the bad place! they can really go nuts.

I like this show a lot but I don't want to think about it that hard

otm, feel that way about a lot of shows tbh

CO
SIGN

can we put that on the door plz

agree! i like this show too much to read about it

feel like this show really stands out for its cheerful rigorous vibe, like the opposite of the documentaryish cringe style

yep

scumbag borderline sociopath with a heart of vaguely normal is the new likable

"i'm luggage"

this ep was so good

not so bothered with the philosophy, as long as this show brings the laughs idgaf

"Heya, pass a NASCAR ketchup."

jortles!!!

Ha! I just finished that scene.

lol'd at Pirates of the Caribbean 6, Playing EVERYWHERE FOREVER

dammit I came here just to type "jortles!!!" and was beaten to it

That was a solid ep but the Chidi stuff was a bit much, like the ethics professor has never thought about the “is it ok to lie to nazis?” moral non-dilemma?

What I got was that he had thought about it and arrived at the Kantian position that lying is never OK. Now, as with the trolley problem episode, he was faced with the actual situation in 'real life' and his commitment to the principle was being challenged.

^^^

nobody's mentioned how chidi was on high maintenace as the bug out guy?

eleanor is super fine in her 50s getup

I'm so proud of Good Janet. A quick study.

Also, I'm fucking elated anytime I get to see Maya Rudolph just *go* with a character.

Maya Rudolph is so underused it must be because SHE doesn’t want to work

butterface

ya basic! it’s a human insult. it’s devastating. you’re devastated right now

OMG JANET

maya rudolph killed it

Was she the judge lady? I found her incredibly annoying.

eleanor is super fine in her 50s getup

― lag∞n,

This is true.

Was she the judge lady? I found her incredibly annoying.

I gasped

this show is so fantastic

pic.twitter.com/EglIFOaXlZ

— no context the good place (@nocontexttgp) January 27, 2018

good janet now knowing how to also be bad janet is v exciting

Was she the judge lady? I found her incredibly annoying.

If I were gonna start a fan club for a famous person, it very well could be Maya Rudolph.

I love the trajectory of the show.

Every Jason gag is about him being the stupidest person in history: "Oh, eggs, I love those things, they are so funny!" (sits on egg and cracks it and laughs gleefully) "But I still haven't made a chicken yet." (makes sad face, then confused face). "Maybe chickens don't come from eggs, maybe eggs come from chickens? (makes dopey face) Why are birds are so confusing?!"

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 January 2018 02:03 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm super late catching up with the thread but this is an excellent jason gag

feel suspiciously like one of the things they might do for next season is shuffle up personalities or otherwise run counter to form? Like I could see some sort of bit where Jason stops being a doofus and "unlocks his brain's potential" or somesuch.

I'd wager they meet the real jianyu in the good place who turns out to behave almost exactly like jason.

one complaint about the new season is that now all the characters 'traits' have been established 70% of the jokes are about the traits. chidi's always being indecisive, tahani is always name dropping etc.

kinda why i think they might do some kinda freaky-friday shit or otherwise stir the pot. if they leave that for another season, it's gonna cloy.

tbf this is a criticism that could be leveled at any given Mike Schur show (nb: I like all of the Mike Schur shows)

*looks directly into camera, raises eyebrows and smirks slightly*