The Good Place on NBC

The Jason reveal in season 1 was masterful, but since then he's been a nothing character. Tahani can be funny, but less so recently.

I was surprised the learn the actress is actually English, it sounds put on (I think she is considerably less posh irl).

man jason is awesome wtf

for some reason everyone loves the endless reboot episode the most but i think the strongest episodes of the show so far are the recent janet-focused ones

Every Tahani gag is like some lame celebrity namedrop gag: "I was on a diamond-studded jet ski with Puff Daddy and Prince Harry when ..."

Every Jason gag is about him being the stupidest person in history: "Oh, eggs, I love those things, they are so funny!" (sits on egg and cracks it and laughs gleefully) "But I still haven't made a chicken yet." (makes sad face, then confused face). "Maybe chickens don't come from eggs, maybe eggs come from chickens? (makes dopey face) Why are birds are so confusing?!"

jason is good

yes. jason is good.

imo the gag is the Tahani anecdotes are never funny or interesting, but she thinks they are because they always involve celebrities and class markers

and the point of her stories is always a super mundane thing that could have been said *without* the namedropping, which makes it funnier to me

Every Jason gag is about him being the stupidest person in history: "Oh, eggs, I love those things, they are so funny!" (sits on egg and cracks it and laughs gleefully) "But I still haven't made a chicken yet." (makes sad face, then confused face). "Maybe chickens don't come from eggs, maybe eggs come from chickens? (makes dopey face) Why are birds are so confusing?!"

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, January 5, 2018 8:03 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is so dramatically worse than any jason joke

i dunno, it's not SO far off

I've had a few Jasons in my life, most of whom weren't as stupendously dumb, and it's always a balance between them driving me crazy and me having a really great time

" i think the strongest episodes of the show so far are the recent janet-focused ones" agreed, she is the secret star of the show IMO.

I found this episode a bit weak as a comeback TBH though the very end with Derek and Mindy St. Claire was priceless.

also, i found out janet's mom works with a friend of mine at a college nearby! I was like "holy shit you have got to get her to come to campus"

see if she can bring evil janet too

I truly think this show has no weak points, every actor in the main ensemble is nailing it and i fucking love how much philosophy there is in it

janet's the GOAT

I laughed at a fart joke for the first time in over 30 years because of Bad Janet. gotta give her that.

vicky getting owned so easily was excellent

The other great thing about Jason is that he’s a total babe.
[Laughs.] I wouldn’t say that. Oh man, I always get embarrassed when that’s mentioned. I’ve always been not comfortable being viewed like that, but it’s a nice compliment to have. I remember one of our executive producer’s assistants was like, “Hey Manny, how much are you paying the writers to write all of this stuff about you?” Because it was always complimenting Jason as the hot guy or the attractive guy. And I’m just like, “Oh, you know, I’m paying them 15 percent of my paycheck just to get those statements in to make me look good.” But yeah, it’s a compliment I’m trying to take more warmly now.

http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/the-good-place-season-2-manny-jacinto-interview.html

In the second scene, the audition involved me and my buddy Pillboi, who you see in some of the flashbacks of season one. It’s me pitching him a product about an energy drink/deodorant idea.

lmao

jason is good

is this back??

as of last night

derek bortles IS a dumb name

bad janet is my new favorite

Tahani used to present...T4? Some music stuff? I can't remember, but it's something like that.

great interview with irl Jason aka Manny Jacinto here

http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/the-good-place-season-2-manny-jacinto-interview.html?utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s3&utm_campaign=sharebutton-t

lol, i never saw this
http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/watch-the-good-place-cast-react-with-shock-to-that-big-twist.html

I just thought about bad Janet's fart joke and started laughing again

Maximum Derek

budhole

i think that's a good joke

I really had “Maaaaaximum Derek!” flashbacks today

here's what jameela sounds like irl, it's not too far off

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01h4g1g

My wife and I have a total affinity for Jason Mantzoukas' shtick.

We too laughed loudest at the fart joke.

Jason's reply to the knock knock joke at the roast, and Ted Danson's reply, got an out-loud guffaw from me.

Any latin scholars? From:

irrisiones infidelium convivia
eius formido

Google translate offers:

ridicule of unbelievers banquet
are terrible

love a good blake bortles joke

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS92CsMUMAAM-Wg.jpg

Are the first episodes of season 2 not available on Hulu? Or am I blind?

I can confirm I don’t see the first three

NBC has been fucking around with promoting their own app and they’re all in there but I’m not sure what the access rules are

all the jaguars need is a defense and an offense and some rules changes

Season one is even better/funnier on rewatching, esp Ted Danson. It's odd to me nothing about Eleanor's obv miserable depression/alcoholism doesn't get mentioned wrt her being a "bad person" tho

the whole second season was up on hulu before thursday’s episode aired but i guess it got taken down. boo

demons are people too

this show could go on forever and i wouldn't mind..

I just finished season 1. Chidi's approach to teaching Eleanor doesn't make any sense. He's told on the first day that people have been sent to the good or bad place on the basis of a formula that quantifies the moral value of every action. As a moral philosopher, he would recognize that this means consequentialism is the truth. But when the times comes to teach Eleanor how to be a good person, we see him poring over all these books and then teaching her about Plato and Aristotle and and Hume on personal identity for some reason. It takes him days or weeks to even get around to utilitarianism, the earthbound moral philosophy that most resembles the system he's been informed is the right one. And then, when Eleanor is ready to accept it, he tells her it's wrong.

Maybe he thinks that learning about these things could be morally edifying. But no academic philosopher would actually think that this is the best way to become good, or pass for good, in a short time. A better idea would be to ask Janet, the freely available source of nearly all information, what really counts as a good action.

I'm only half-kidding when I say that this is a fatal flaw and the show sucks because of it.

it had to happen sooner or later

it’s the ilx rule of comedy discussions

As a moral philosopher, he would recognize that this means consequentialism is the truth.

Chidi's defining characteristic is that he is completely incapable of making a decision ever about anything, and this characteristic has ruined his chances of getting to the Good Place. It makes perfect sense that he would be incapable of teaching anyone else the right thing except by accident.

I think that's similar to what I was getting at above wrt s2, in my untrained-in-philosophy way, except that I see it as a strength, or at least an interesting perspective:

if we were to know for a fact that there is an afterlife with heaven and hell and immortal omniscient beings who have some kind of absolute system of ethical judgment, what exactly would be the value of studying "human ethics"? The show seems to take the position that human ethics still has its own independent value that the immortal could fail to understand, that these can still [ be ] moral questions regardless of whether you would end up in heaven or hell, which seems radically humanist or something. Curious what j. thought.

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, October 20, 2017 8:51 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

(I'd ask my philosopher half but she's still on s1.)

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, October 20, 2017 8:52 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm assuming where they're going with it is that the Danson character will eventually rebel against the unethical system he's always served.

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, October 20, 2017 9:03 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The implications of that are p radical imo!: human inquiry can lead to a moral knowledge and system of ethics that are superior to those of heaven and hell, with the potential to revolutionize the afterlife. Basically, a dogmatic religion can still be wrong even if it is factually accurate.

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, October 20, 2017 9:12 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

But, yeah, I guess in the context of s1, trishyb OTM.