A thread for Disney's MOANA staring Auli'i Cravalho and Dwayne Johnson, songs by Lin-Manuel Miranda

Idgi

I think Brave was a gorgeous muddle, Tangled tons of fun, Frozen I never need to see again (maybe confirmed by the horrid Coco short) and Moana pretty good.

i watched this with my 4 year old nephew over the holidays and cried. it is great.

this definitely passed the finding dory test, in that my daughter has watched it a zillion times and i still like it

baby Moana is the cutest and I want to snatch her

yeah the little kids are sooooo cute

it’s pretty great

that scene where she’s a chubby lil baby playing with the wave is so <3 <3

that scene enraptured me

also i feel like the metanarrative of the songs is how Lin-Manuel feels about Puerto Rico and it ambushes me with unexpected emotion

yeah otm

rewatching right now :D

the ocean animation makes me soooooo homesick for the beach, i want to jump right in

"you're welcome" is so goddamn annoying. the rock doesn't need a song. or big hair tbf.

we could make a thread for "the part of movies you've seen before where you know it's a great time to get up and pee, but you realize it a little bit too late and then it's too late and you still need to pee"

i love The Rock and “You’re Welcome”

ITT Tombot and VG disagree on a movie

He did well on it tbh but the songs a little annoying alright imo

But still tho jemaine jemaine jemaine

I like Moana a lot but the songs sung by the dudes in it are just all right

I’ll listen to you’re welcome a million times before the dumb crab song.

Hmm my approach saves a lot of time

.......best animated Disney song nom/poll ever been done?

I mean it's the opener from beauty and the beast but still

i like the Jemaine song a lot too

SHIIINAAAY

that'd be a cool ballot poll! maybe open out to songs from animated films or kids' films generally, just to dodge disney exceptionalism and otherwise yknow "somewhere out there" and "pure imagination" are never gonna get polled. otoh i'd need a long-ass ballot for a poll where wizard of oz is dueling with moana so maybe just animated. i guess the one upshot to all-disney is space to throw a vote to eccentric personal faves like "ichabod crane" or some b.s. song no one remembers from the sword in the stone...

I thought about it but all animated seems very wide, all kids impossible to do so, all movies then it's just the tonight quintet

Including live with disney-style animated just for the sake of 'somewhere' and you can't keep a god dog down (bow wow wow wow) but can't see that not causing a scrap tbh

We have threads barring Disney so I'd be all for some exceptionalism just for the sake of a clean poll, essentially

Would nearly consider it a good candidate for one of the write-up ballots

i mean having done all the disney movie polls i can't really try to bash the exceptionalist tendency now. but i did try to (sometimes) mention the other non-disney movies from the same period, just to try and get them back situated in the general history. iiiiii dunno....

Let's see what it looks like in the morning

^ rejected hunchback opener fyi

You’re my best friend, my best friend
And we are family

The greatest Disney song is the first few seconds of the Mulan song that goes "let's get down to business/to defeat the Huns" no need to go thru the motions of polling

I just rewatched Lilo and Stitch. Ugh, so good too. DIsney should just make hawaiian girl movies forever.

The conclusion to the poll is v. deservedly going to be something from Jungle Book, methinks.

Oodelally song from Robin Hood

Shit the jungle book yeah that's gonna be up there

Don't really know songs from robin hood!

is disney’s robin hood the ground zero of the furry movement y/n

Poll

This thread is fecund

Aladdin btw has fantastic songs

otm

this movie really passes the "kid has watched it 15X times and I still like it" test

Can't unhear

"See the line where the sky meets the sea? It calls me"

as

"It's a tragedy for me to see the dream is over..." from Milli Vanilli's "Girl I'm Gonna Miss You"

A thread for Disney's MOANA staring Auli'i Cravalho and Dwayne Johnson, songs by Lin-Manuel Miranda

best songs are by Opetaia Foa'i/Te Vaka imho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60BQFGoMWd4

Love every second of this gorgeous movie and I cry like a drip every single time and just thinking about it or actually hearing the music now that I'm playing Albert's link /sob/

co-sign <3

I was looking for other performances from TeVaka/the Foa'i's and this was the only one I could find of this other great (also non-LMM) song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpKm-aYjMgc

... but with a little more research I learned that the above song (known on the Moana OST as "An Innocent Warrior" that plays during the scene when toddler Moana protects the baby sea turtle to the ocean and the ocean goddess plays with her and offers her the heart of Te Fiti) was written recorded by Te Vaka in 2000 as "Loimata E Maligi" (falling tears) about a tragic fire that killed 19 teenage girls in a dormitory in Tuvalu, and if you look that song up there is quite a bit of live footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkBsaVMQ9m8

My point for my latest revives stems from a discussion with my wife (who is LMM superfan #1, ie saw In The Heights like a dozen times) on our last road trip and we were listening to the Moana OST and she's all LMM this and LMM that, and I'm like look, I'm not trying to paint LMM as a Paul Simon or anything, but there were quite a bit of other folks who played and sang on this soundtrack and they have been largely ignored for their contributions which I'd rate equal to much higher than LMM's.

Agree to some general extent, but I mean, LMM did "How Far You'll Go," "You're Welcome" and "Shiny," which are all pretty memorable and either the linchpin, or, in the case of the latter two, the showstoppers of the movie. I say this as the parent of two (growing) girls who sing these songs all the time. Regardless, I like that this movie has legs and is seemingly just shy of "Frozen" in terms of current Disney (musical) impact.

this movie really passes the "kid has watched it 15X times and I still like it" test

― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, February 5, 2018 10:30 AM (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My kid watched it twice in a row last night.

LMM did "How Far You'll Go," "You're Welcome" and "Shiny," which are all pretty memorable

Aye, the latter two memorable for their sheer nails-on-chalkboard annoyance lol!

I say this as the parent of two (growing) girls who sing these songs all the time.

Yeah, I didn't mention the kids, my only hope is that when their journey with Moana is over, that their takeaway is the beautiful Pacific Islander culture/music and not LMM's shlocky cornball showtunes...

(haha I'm truly glad I can vent these normally unsaid opinions to you guys and not the family).

you seem to be implying that shlocky cornball showtunes are a bad thing

and I'm not done! I will admit "How Far I Go" is not awful, and that I actually enjoy most of "Where You Are" which I think Te Vaka do the music & the non-lead vox on.

The new one apparently began as a planned Disney+ series - I don't know how far along things were when it was rejiggered into a movie, but maybe that explains some issues? Have not seen yet, disappointed to hear it's lousy.

i might've been in the wrong frame of mind or had my expectations too high, would be happy if my impression shifts over what are sure to be many more viewings on Disney+ in the next 6-12 months...

it definitely felt like it was a geared towards a younger audience than the first one, esp the whole coconut scene.

def feels like the old Disney straight-to-VHS sequels of the 90s. but i enjoyed myself nonetheless. it's definitely sloppy though, rushed ideas, unearned beats and moments.

I only liked one of the new songs. one of the songs unwittingly sounds like "Rock Me Amadeus"

As mentioned passim I visited Berlin last week, and I kept seeing posters for a new film called Vaiana 2, but it was quite obviously Moana 2 with a different name! Viz:

https://www.cinebonus.fr/images/ff/700/vaiana-67ce64a308.jpg

It's apparently some kind of trademark issue. The internet believes that Disney changed the name because of an Italian porn star, which sounds like the kind of bullshit that Reddit etc passes around as fact, but perhaps it's true after all. In Italy the film was released as Oceania:

https://images.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/174514_large.jpg

I'm going to digress here. I was in Sainsbury's earlier today. There was a song on the tannoy where the chorus was obviously "Need You Tonight" by INXS, but with a woman singing over the top. An interpolation. That's what the kids call it. An interpolation. I remember thinking "but the original song isn't that old", and then it dawned on me that 1987 was thirty-seven years ago.

The song sounded like one of those found-on-Soundcloud / generated-by-an-agency soundalikes that plays in cheaper shops, but according to the internet it's an actual pop single by Dua Lipa! She is an actual real pop star beloved of the BBC etc. I am disappointed with modern pop music.