Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

yeah, It's a little rushed and scrambled in its attempts to process the show's finale, but it was nice to spend some time with that scene (and the idea of Cole as an audience surrogate)

https://www.sportsalcohol.com/end-twin-peaks-denied-us-good-times-together/

Nice one

The entirety of THE RETURN is screening at MoMA for free in January, for you lucky New Yorkers

i'll be there if possible

lol i'm already rewatching the whole thing and i can't wait to do it again in a theater with people :\

I'm in New York in January!

...a week after this finishes. This is an outrage

Finished my rewatch, which was great. I notice that 17/18 aren't considered a unit on the DVDs. I'm mostly just thinking about the structure - what things are artistic decisions and what are artifacts of the medium. In what ways are (1+2) and (3+4) discrete in a way that (17+18) aren't? Not important, of course.

Also watched the extras that aren't on the extra disc (on the DVDs); would like to get drunk and talk folk music with David Patrick Kelly.

the docs on the last disc are SO good. I still haven't watched the panel yet but I would kill to get Lindelof on the 'cast.

I powered through all the non-extras disc stuff because I promised I would lend the set to my neighbour before xmas. I can take longer on the final disc.

Lindelof was a frequent guest on the entertainment weekly podcast. My main takeaway was that he's one of those dorks who think that Cooper is inhabiting the body of Dougie Jones lol

Not that he didn't have interesting things to say, it just left an impression that an acclaimed tv writer would consistently fail to grasp something so simple

bought the final dossier, put it for sale without reading it cuz i'm broke af - take it from this thread that i'm not missing much?

I liked it. But then, when I was young, I liked the book of the film of Ghostbusters 2, so ymmv.

Haha I wish I'd done that (cuz also broke)

i think it's worth a quick run through, you can probably read it in half a day

^ yeah probably do that before I sell it tbh

as a guy who enjoyed the Gremlins 2 novelization as a kid, I endorse dowd’s comment

I had the original gremlins novelisation, the two things I remember are the author giving gizmo a bonkers backstory and there being a lot of stuff like "the old man walked inscrutably over to the antique table, speaking his strange oriental gibberish"

Anyway yeah you guys are setting the bar in the correct place re tfd

If I remember right the Gremlins 2 novelization does the "gremlins are in the projection booth thing" by having a gremlin tie up the author and write a chapter of the book

^^^omg I think I read this too

^^^spoken like a master of kompromat

lol wrong thread

haha

lol

i would question the stamina/sanity of New Yorkers who will do this in the new year's opening weekend

https://www.moma.org/calendar/events/3861?locale=en

Wait why would you question their stamina

Anyway I would so go to this obv & am gutted I narrowly miss being in NY for it, but then I wanted to take the train to Brighton when the cinema there screened the first two seasons over a weekend and I was gutted I couldn't do that

ugh the word stamina is forever tainted

It's been constaminated

one of my favorite sequences in this whole show is balthazar getty’s big scene

sharon van etten’s “tarifa” is the most beautiful song in the world

Tons of behind the scenes stuff up now, if it hasn't been posted here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvw2rSoi1Rk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_PPd9QaC_4

etc

hahaha, love that interaction between belushi, lynch, and maclachlan early on in the first video. belushi making all the obvious jokes about not having any clue what is going on in real life or in the show, lynch kinda annoyed at the small talk. then machlachlan with a simple "stop asking questions", which is both another small talk obvious joke but also good advice.

The opening bit with Lynch forgetting to making a nose or mouth hole for Dern while covering her face with green-screen goop is great, and the little wrap moment with Miguel Ferrer is very touching.

I love it when belushi and knepper excitedly talk about the (futile) backstories they've come up with for their characters

holy shit the behind the scenes stuff is remarkable

Hope this stuff stays on yt long enough to slowly watch all 5 hours.

Is this the stuff from the box set?

yes

there was so much traffic on the strip. it was incredible. there were cars everywhere

DL's rant ~12mins on the first vid about schedules and not being able to get dreamy and experimental makes you wonder if there was more ep8-mode things he had in mind but was squashed due to restrictions.

honestly I don't think the world could have handled 18 hours of restriction-free lynch

For any French readers December's Cahiers Du Cinema has a fantastic and LONG intvw with Lynch.

Watching these bts clips and I have to say I love when he loses his shit hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GU4cshUbZs

Al Strobel’s story about losing his arm is nuts.

Lynch’s complaints in the last documentary section seem pretty accurate about what was deficient in this. Not enough time to experiment, not enough time to “get dreamy.” Wishing he (we) could spend a lot more time in the Fireman’s place. Complaining he had 15 people standing around in Truman’s office in 17 and no idea what to do with them... rewatching that scene was painful, and a lot of staging decisions throughout seemed perfunctory and not up to his usual standard. A few too many useless side plots and characters throughout as well, like every scene with Roth & Leigh, that took time away from the good stuff. And it’s really missing the tension you get during some of the more muted exchanges in the original, like Donna & Audrey’s conversation at the RR counter, just before Audrey gets up to dance.

Rewatching I loved every minute of Dougie, every minute of Audrey & Charlie, Hawk & Margaret, all the stuff in the woods... the first scene in the red room, in 2, had an entirely different emphasis after knowing how it ends. Originally Laura’s scene seemed a retread and the evolution of the arm was new and vivid and much-discussed. But Laura’s part obv much more significant.

1 & 2 work great together as a longer piece; those, 8 & 18 still very much the best parts.

eh rewatching this i just kinda luxuriated in each individual scene and couldn’t find much to criticize about any of it. i was breathless all over again rewatching 17 and 18

haven’t gotten through all the supplemental material yet so who knows how much i’ll agree with lynch

17 is a mess, though I love how it starts and ends

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve rewatched the final NM sequence in 8, with the radio station and the locust-frog, probably my favorite Lynch thing at this point

Rewatching it really felt like a lot of the best stuff (the box, all of 8, the Mulholland Dr. as a road movie-vibe of 18) were ideas for other films he’d had over the years that he then shoehorned into Twin Peaks.

It's a TV show, so having to make compromises and work on a tight schedule is pretty intrinsic to the medium. But man those behind the scenes clips are inspiring. It's amazing watching how hands on he is. The fact that he paints the blood and does the makeup himself still astounds me. It's cliche, but he really treats every frame as a canvas.