Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

"Sam Seder, who're your guys?"

Or Home Movies/Bobs Burgers questions

yeah Seder honestly came off like another cohost, it was great

Folks, the Menaker/Garland beef is flowering on Twitter and if you take amusement in this sort of thing in any way, it's beautiful.

omg yes

amber's point way back when the first GAME THEORY thread happened about Garland saying he was drinking craft beer and on iv adderall (?) has stuck with me- paraphrasing "dude you're just drunk and fucked up on drugs, don't make it sound classy"

You tiny souls. You malignant professionals.

Oh, Fast Company. Bible of Geopolitical Analysis. Two of these in Calendar 2017?

Are you ready for the data analytics? 😎https://t.co/0AyxBVN9XR

— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) December 24, 2017

Eric it goes deeper than you know. Here he is meeting with a Syrian operative and an unpatriotic wizard. pic.twitter.com/DRRUDGIwZA

— HW Wood (@hwwood) December 24, 2017

Ok I admit I did chortle at “unpatriotic wizard”

garland seems genuinely unwell tbh

This is true

He seems shitfaced and mad online. Not the best combo.

This is a lie. Amber never shares her coke. https://t.co/pQ9m2UFOBm

— Angela Nagle (@AngNagle) December 24, 2017

amber was on the most recent cum town ep yammering about doing coke with the hosts so that thread seems... at least partially plausible?

which part- amber doing coke with her roommates or never sharing hers? they all talk about doing coke a lot. nick, adam, stav, and amber. i think it's hilarious that nick is "sober" but just does a ton of coke instead. bums me out, blow is the worst drug in every way. also if you dig into that quoted tweet thread there's some really disingenuous stuff about amber "enabling" nick, as if he needs to be coerced into doing cocaine.

Street Fight posted a three year-old lost episode with Will talking about Sons of Anarchy, it's really good. I think I'd like their show a lot more if they had someone to keep them on track or keep it to one or two issues, episodes just bounce around too much.

I don't know how you guys can listen to Cumtown. I've never managed to get past a couple of minutes they're seemingly just the most awful people.

re Cumtown i didn't like it much at first but it grew on me. like i can 'get' the ironic riffing on race & jews & uh intellectual disabilities, but most of the gay "jokes" just seem dumb and unfunny, in the way a shitty 13 year old idiot yelling "fag" is dumb and unfunny. and the Adam bashing just kind of gets boring after a while. lots of times there's not even really a joke there. i saw em live last month at their "funny moms" show and it was indeed very funny. they're actually pretty good comics and managed more or less to avoid the cartoonishly ott vulgarity and bleak nihilism often exhibited on the pod.

that said it's def not for everyone and i certainly can't blame folks for absolutely loathing them/ it.

Ya we’ve already had several cum town **struggle sessions** itt. It’s just contemporary Howard Stern. I love it. Ymmv

I think I'd like their show a lot more if they had someone to keep them on track or keep it to one or two issues, episodes just bounce around too much.

yeah i can get this. Street Fight boys were fun and very much in their element the one time i saw them live, prob better than on the pod (which i actually do like and listen to fairly regularly). also Bryan is Good At Twitter.

Warning: the new holiday episode has Overwatch jokes

(Shockingly)

the holiday special was... good? it even had some rudimentary production!

LOL @ amber as meghan mccain

Adomian’s Chris Matthews is the opposite of ASMR.

omg @ "he likes movies called like Goodbye at a Distance"

loled at an earlier ep when Felix made a joke like that and Matt just gave a sad "I, I don't really like movies like that"

my fave part was everyone cracking up at matt’s line about korean pro-gaming minutiae towards the end and virgil saying ‘i wrote that’ with quiet triumph

btw matt’s no cartridge interview a while back about why he hates gaming was rly good

My nephews got sooo much Overwatch shit for Xmas; I didn’t think it was that popular with elementary school kids

just listened to Champagne Sharks CS55, about the housing/banking crash and ensuing bailout and what that has done to minority communities (including how it drove voter disenfranchisement). wow, it was just devastating. it really highlights how bullshit the whole "you can't talk about class" argument is.

I'm perfectly fine with mercilessly making fun of Garland as long as he goes after actual legit writers/journos

I see Eric Garland has been doing some deep cover investigation of my (public) LinkedIn profile pic.twitter.com/UO4leSctEi

— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper) December 30, 2017

the ironic riffing on race & jews & uh intellectual disabilities

fucking unfathomable to me that in 2017 there's anything to "get" about schtick like this beyond "anybody doing it is an asshole"

I've never seen a Cum Town fan even attempt to mount a rigorous defense of its contents

yeah i didn't mean for my earlier post to be construed as a defense. they are wholly indefensible. and yes, the race jokes et al definitely scan as asshole, but they kind of are actual "jokes", i.e. w/ a punchline etc, whereas lots of times the gay stuff is just them reveling in calling something or someone "gay".

It’s just contemporary Howard Stern

^yeah p much

I was gonna say "who's have guessed Amber would be the most problematic Chapo" but uh I guess at least one person on here would have lol

Did she do something?

Long story short, as I understand it, Amber and select others didn't respond very.....tactfully when some members of the DSA disability working group claimed they were left out of the Medicare For All campaign initiative. (It turns out the M4A people just had the wrong contact info, lol)

What's the full story

looking at fb she appeared to have responded to accusations of ableism with an excerpt from a Richard Wright book about how a legit-seeming newcomer to his local Communist Party chapter began attacking other members and making serious allegations against them, but then he turned out to be an escaped mental patient.

You can track most, if not all of it, via C0n0r @rpwel's feed xp

who?? why are we typing in code? i don't know who that is, that @ leads nowhere

conor's a v online v good dude in DC DSA & i'd guess simon's typed in code to googleproof his real name

xp Replace the @ w/A and the last name is his twitter

ah ok i see. so basically M4A put something out without the input of the DSA's disabled contingent, those people got mad, then Amber went ott and basically said "haters gonna hate"? that sucks.

why are leftist/liberal organizations so much more prone to internecine battles like this? not saying it's not justified, but damn. bums me out. circular firing squad, etc.

Stuff like "Has Chapo even had a disabled person on as a guest? Lol" is not much more helpful than Amber.

yeah, i was gonna say a person can be disabled and also an asshole. i know from experience. that twitter feed was just ridiculous, initial complaints aside. the escalation and calls for people to cancel their patreon subs? get over yourself...

I'm fully confident that there wasn't malice behind their inability to reach us. From what we understand, their contact information was incorrect, and they assumed we had just failed to reply when we never received the message.

— DSA Disability WG (@DSADisability) January 6, 2018

Oh my god

this thread is the worst place online

hi amber