Post a controversial opinion

(Guy who shared it is m/l a socialist btw.)

Can't believe we're going to live in a world where people are going to choose garbage immediately instead of great things that require some effort, that's nothing like how we already process film and music and shopping already on the internet

must be cool to live in a world where the internet is just another entertainment hole and not a ubiquitous entity telling millions of people they had to vote for Donald Trump because Hillary Clinton killed four people in Benghazi and then sold all of our uranium

are people really encountering anti-net-neutrality arguments in the wild? I haven't seen ANY and I've seen quite a lot of chatter on the subject

― Simon H., Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:36 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know a libertarian (""""anarchist""""") trans woman who is celebrating the end of net neutrality and the likely passage of the tax bill, who's legitimately confounded that no one in her Facebook feed seems to understand these are entirely positive things

I assume Whitney is only pushing back on this bc ppl on Reddit are passionate about it.

lol whiney

I'm not really pushing back on the idea of ending net neutrality, just I think that A) most of the arguments I come across are pretty weak and entitled, though that may just be who I choose to follow on Twitter B) The internet is already pretty bad

I feel like the lesson of the last couple years is It Can Always Get Worse

Not that I'd argue with either of those points really

love to counter the claim that something is bad with "well it's only a little more bad, and the whiners hate this, so I'm for it"

I've decided retroactively that the citizens united supreme court ruling did, in fact, totally own

I'll tell you one thing that entitled white people hate, it's when you wear a diaper and then post pics of yourself wearing the diaper

wuts rong w diapers

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*poxy fuled*
"christ on a cross, honey, did you forget to pay the ilx bill again?"
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*writes congressman*

fucking classic whiney lol

It's high fucking time restaurants start taking the tails off of shrimp in heavily sauced dishes... Inexcusable

ESP if they are meant to be eaten with chopsticks

Whiney otm.

Not really, obviously, but in a larger sense, yes.

The Thing is boring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNAGir88An8

seems kinda fun to me

http://rs1253.pbsrc.com/albums/hh594/NKassirer/Reaction%20Gifs/Addams%20Family/ThingBeckons.gif~c200

Where did GAPDY stand on net neutrality?

bring back napster

Doing math homework while stoned is fun

Green's theorem on weed man

My college roommate smoked pot three times a day and got a Ph.D in Math. Wouldn't have happened without the weed, I'm sure of it.

the same ppl who talk about the problems of white ppl and the problems of males based on the actions of a minority of both groups (due to condemnations of systemic factors within the groups themselves and their construction that allow those group individuals to lash out) do not do the same with other non-white non-male groups. they consider the former critical theory, & the latter bigotry. it's hypocrisy and the cheapened idea that power can only flow one direction to justify it is just putting lipstick on a hypocrite.

not following... clarify?

The problems of white people are not based on the actions of a minority, Mordy.

I’m actually pretty sure that what you posted doesn’t qualify for this thread at all. It’s the position of a strong majority of (surprise) white males.

Doing math homework while stoned is fun

― brimstead, Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:44 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

math is hard enough already for me and if i smoke a little it's impossible

Same

Blaming is fun and necessary

Also worth noting that Mordy posting that to ilx counts as controp obv

are people really encountering anti-net-neutrality arguments in the wild? I haven't seen ANY and I've seen quite a lot of chatter on the subject

― Simon H., Thursday, December 14, 2017 11:36 AM (yesterday)

i'm not anti net neutrality - i think net neutrality is a good thing - but i'm anti people telling me to sign an online petition and then being furious that their online petitions are being ignored. and yeah, i'm cynical but i feel like a lot of this is a fight between giant corporations. i'm old enough to remember when there actually was a Backbone Cabal that exercised control over content. it wasn't good, but neither was it the end of the world. the only way this really would be disastrous was if strong sapir-whorf was valid, which it isn't.

that said this thing has definite implications for political speech on the internet, and the internet outrage machine has helped limit some of the damage that might otherwise have been done, even if i'm lukewarm on the long-term utility of an uncontrolled outrage machine, and on the general utility of internet political speech in general.

Blaming is fun and necessary

― remember the lmao (darraghmac)

show trials are not necessarily unjust

cite: d.c. stephenson's murder trial

I think the intense love Automatic for the People is baffling.

yeah i had to tell everybody in the pub last night to stop going on and on about it

the same ppl who talk about the problems of white ppl and the problems of males based on the actions of a minority of both groups (due to condemnations of systemic factors within the groups themselves and their construction that allow those group individuals to lash out) do not do the same with other non-white non-male groups. they consider the former critical theory, & the latter bigotry. it's hypocrisy and the cheapened idea that power can only flow one direction to justify it is just putting lipstick on a hypocrite.

― Mordy, Friday, December 15, 2017 6:50 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ppl make these arguments out of emotion entirely, & so they are easily dismissable

obviously no white person making an argument against 'white people' as a whole actually believes it, and a non-white person making the same argument is clearly not thinking 'by making this condemnation of an entire race/skin-color, i legitimize the arguments made against my own race/skin-color'

similarly, we as a society have agreed to humor the opinions of women venting about the awfulness of men and see these for the emotional release they are instead of taking them seriously, while completely demonizing/criminalizing any man who dares to make a statement that could even be mistakenly interpreted as applying to all women. it's a part of men's strength that we can kind of take the high road and 'yes dear' these arguments instead of reacting to them with the same hysteria that comes when the shoe is on the other foot. there's nothing imo that is going to change this dynamic, it's just how men and women are wired.

hoo boy

At least we're getting the ideological diversity treeship was looking for.

This oughta be good

which statement can get you fired/red-lettered: 'ignore him, he's a man, they're all idiots' vs. 'ignore her, she's a woman, they're all idiots':

This oughta be good

― In a slipshod style (Ross), Friday, December 15, 2017 3:35 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i assure you it won't. nobody here will have anything to say except 'ban'

we've got this system where we don't even have to say it

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/8/80/Archie-Bunker.jpg

sleepingbag, you bring up some really good points. you might want to thoroughly document them and post them to yammer or another shared space at your workplace.

i wouldn't dare, bc hurting a woman's feelings in the workplace is basically a crime. Qed.

however on a message board thread called post a controversial opinion that you actually believe, i might just.. post a controversial opinion that i actually believe

usually some light involved in a QED event

we've got this system where we don't even have to say it

― .oO (silby), Friday, December 15, 2017 10:39 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just tried to like this post