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(or did you mean Irish- without the American or Anatolian attached? Cuz yeah that's p weird)

What struggle is that?

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/slavery-trauma-inherited-genetics

Famine, having to listen to Inglishers aping the way you speak iirc

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people that are of Italian descent do the same thing. Irish genes & the disposition are strong and carry over thru many generations. ime. also perhaps a history of Irish & Italians being discriminated against in USA up thru the end of WWII

"Irish genes" nah. Just genes.

Genes carry over.

Well, yeah

WOuld you identify as Irish-Murican, flappy? Would you say this out loud to people?

yeah I do

How far back does ancestry have to go before you qualify as Irish-Something?

xp good on you!

xp you mean Something-American? idk

the strong irish genes

I think the thesis is it depends on the Something the Something-American is.

Something-Anything. When u feel it u feel it.

when pressed (and o am i pressed since moving to the usa) i say im canadian but they dont want to hear that, they want to know where my ancestors are from, which i still find weird and uncomfortable to tell to people i hardly know

but its bc people cant tell where my surname comes from and hear me speak other languages

Klingon?

here's another controp : English should be made the official language of the USA

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/3/3b/Belushi-startrek.jpg

Albanian, right.

Both my parents are/were Irish immigrants in the 60's. Although my Irish roots are completely adulterated with Moorish dna via a shipwrecked galleon allegedly, but I still get a bit nervous when there are some mouldy potatoes in the Ocado sack.

I don't mean 'strong' literally. genetic traits like potato noses, alcoholism, blood diseases, inherited trauma, pale skin, red hair, melancholy carry over generations after the boats came thru Ellis Island and names were anglicized

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martian actually

Most Irish names are already anglicized.

when pressed (and o am i pressed since moving to the usa) i say im canadian but they dont want to hear that, they want to know where my ancestors are from, which i still find weird and uncomfortable to tell to people i hardly know

but its bc people cant tell where my surname comes from and hear me speak other languages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAZTWRqaAwA

Ouch crazy times

Gets complicated when ppl emigrate under forced circs imo you can expect a multigenerational hangover

In the main just1ne otm tho

But America man. Nobody in America wants to be American afaict they seem v invested in the traits supposedly inherent to their genetics strange ppl

Like I'm from a place where the families have been occupants of the same fields for hundreds of years and we don't believe in inherent traits from one generation to the next really

But we do all have three eyes idk

fwiw,I'm okay with being Oregonian.

Not a matter of "belief" though, Irish-Anatolian polar bear.

The legend grows

But America man. Nobody in America wants to be American afaict

wrong

Ok but what is American?

It'd be like those Scottish settlers in Ireland still calling themselves Ulster Scots after being there for 400 years... errrrrrr.

The legend growls

― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:07 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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Nice

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lol only native americans can claim to have been in america for 400 years dude

if i consider 400 years of my family lineage we've been all around the globe

I'm not talking about America.

deems will get it

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i thought you were saying americans saying they were irish eg were like scottish settlers in ireland calling themselves ulster scots after living there for 400 years

Don't make me post the Ulster American Heritage Park again

here's another controp : English should be made the official language of the USA

― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 19:34 (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Manifested how, though? It’s less controversial in the abstract than it is when you start barring people from migration or citizenship because they can’t speak the language well enough, stop providing translation services for social services, etc - which is what a lot of countries with official languages do.

again, people of Italian descent, Polish descent, even if they're 3 or 4 generations removed from the homeland, they identify as (x)-American. common thread there is they lived in ethnic enclaves in USA well into the 20th century

unless your ancestors were Native American, "American" is an abstraction, a mindset, a set of ideals/beliefs/behaviors rather than obvious genetic traits like freckles or skin tone. for better & worse.

i thought you were saying americans saying they were irish eg were like scottish settlers in ireland calling themselves ulster scots after living there for 400 years

Thankfully most Americans are not that perverse.

I like thinking about about some family tradition of like, say, making sauerkraut, only to find out the grandmother who was into doing that wasn't echoing ancestry, it was just a thing that was really popular in home magazines of the 1950s in the midwest

Anecdotal of course but my mother-in-law is 2nd gen Polish-American, does not identify as such. She'll make pierogis and kielbasa etc but that's as far as it goes.

ya i eat potatoes and sauerkraut and ill entertain my irish-american family's celebration of st patricks day but other than that i was raised on burgers, poutine and dairy queen

(theres more but that rhymes so well)

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Sun Ra had the right idea by declaring himself to be originally from outer space.