Star Wars 8 shit talk

Only spoiler I'll provide: we finally learn what a 'nerf herder' is and it's unspeakably filthy.

A friend was disappointed.

welp the new yorker is doing a little prequel rehabilitation in their review. was this the guy who wrote other contrarian/positive takes on the prequels?

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/star-wars-the-last-jedi-reviewed

I desperately miss the pseudo-Shakespearean dialectical wrangles and the exhilarating sense of C.G.I. discoveries that mark George Lucas’s last forays into the franchise—their sense of renewed personal investment in a cinematic universe that seemed to be growing ever more complex before its creator’s eyes, their sense that its creator was personally wrestling with a world that was escaping his own control and taking on a life of its own.

take your prequel rehab think-links to the prequel poll thread

oh good i nearly posted another one

was this the guy who wrote other contrarian/positive takes on the prequels?

lol people talk about people who like the wrong star wars movies like they're cryptonazis

there are several critics who like the prequels. most convincing pieces i've read have all been by mike thorn. don't know if i'd go as far as brody does in that quote

I desperately miss

wrong adverb there

If Force Awakens is better than the first and third prequels, the gap is not large.

Force Awakens at least mostly got the star wars look and feel right, despite its flaws. That puts it miles ahead of any of the prequels.

it mostly had the plot of the original

Brody -- author of a massive book on Godard, and regularly assailed as a "contrarian" -- is perhaps mourning the steam-cleaning of any idiosyncrasy out of what is now 'perfected,' big-budget product.

i would sorta disagree that it got the feel right; first twenty minutes of tfa i was like "what movie is this where i'm watching a fleet of storm troopers land on a planet via a shaky handheld camera"

The prequels introduced a lot of new (to SW) tricks camera-wise (e.g. those odd zooms throughout AOTC's final third). TFA got the balance right between old and new re look and feel imo.

yeah, TFA didnt "feel" like Star Wars at all to me. It looked like it for the most part, which I guess is how Hollywood types interpret feel.

The prequels did (and do I guess) feel like SW, but then SW was always flawed, and take the orig franchise out of its moment, and you might get....well, the prequels.

whenever i see the new one I hope Oscar Isaac has one joke as good as "Can't really understand you with the mask on"

I do laugh at that one every time

By "feel" I mean that TFA feels like a lived in, solid world that has a history. I think this has a lot to do with using physical props and models instead of CGI-ing everything. The world of the prequels felt way more artificial and video game-like.

half of that was George deciding 1080p was good enough forever

I fear I dare nto view it on the big screen - its all too much - maybe on my pone on netflicks

XP jedi power battels for dreamcast was fun

Brody did write a lengthy prequels defence, yes

the thing about Lucas that gets me is every time I hear him say something re: the prequels like "I couldn't do all this stuff originally because the technology just wasn't there yet". Why does no artist ever get the idea of limitations being a good, maybe the most important, thing?

"every time," good lord, mh

These films can still be monumentally successful by appealing exclusively to SW nerds instead of a general audience because there are enough of the first class now (doing multiple admissions), and the g.a. is staying home to stream and watch TV no matter what.

Why does no artist ever get the idea of limitations being a good, maybe the most important, thing?

it's a bummer that we didn't get that original, non-CGI jabba the hutt

Dominique, some artists do

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/FordandMulholland.jpg

lol sorry Morbs, I knew that'd get you :)

Honestly the most movie repetition is being around my friends' kids, who will watch the same ones over and over. my coworker knows all these details of the Marvel comics films that I never noticed or forgot because he's caught ten minutes here and there over the year.

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of course, that's all my message hyperbole. But seemingly not Lucas -- and I think that's part of the magic of those orig movies, because it's this push/pull of his vision/ambition versus his budget versus what was actually possible.

that's kind of why adding to or reworking the older films never made sense -- if your story and plot arc are crafted to the limits and contributions of your special effects and staging, altering the film throws everything out of balance

adding distracting, random window-dressing to the picture just because you have the technology is not unique to Lucas--it's a big problem in video games, for example.

but yeah, it's important to quell that impulse. it helps to have an editor with actual creative decision-making power, which the prequels did not have

never considered dubbing in some Tom Stoppard dialogue, did he

Look, we ain't talkin' about some hoity toity high-class enterprise like Last Crusade here.

this all explains why I'm more interested in the planned trilogy RJ is getting to do on his "own" (to the extent that's possible)

I kind of believe it, but the way these large ships are steered makes me skeptical

I could see, if the reception of this film is good, Johnson getting a reasonable amount of creative control over three films, but doubt he'd direct all of them?

just overheard a convo in the men's room here that covered in 3+ mins this film, The Room and Disaster Artist.

Women are truly the superior of the binary genders.

If I get any real work done tomorrow it'll be a miracle of commitment and focus

My wife has decided to indulge me and come along, and my BFF who doesn't even know from movies is coming over to babysit for free at 7pm so we have plenty of time to get in line at the Uptown 1

hah dude I almost took tomorrow off. had to talk myself out of buying a BB-8 bling ring today too

I'm going with one of my best friends. procured a nice Last Jedi t-shirt for the occasion, just need to de-sleeve it

Where I live a zip mock is considered super casual, we need more star wars buttondown oxfords tbf

MARKET GAP

with Death Star cufflinks

tie silencer neckties

there were some nice Star Wars winter hats on sale today and living in FL it's like "oh cool let me buy something I can wear 3 out of 365 days this year"

this is where you learn to use the camera part of the phone and find out what your weird internet buddes can offer in exchange

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61fb2TUyasL._UX562_.jpg

a droid for all seasons, such as it is

aw man I wish I had seen that when I was still office-bound

i'd have worn that to work every day

appreciated David Edelstein review that coined 'Luke Cavesulker'

It’s good, I liked it. It’s all-over-the-place in the middle but the final hour is a barn-stormer.