'Even allowing for inflation, this thread is not worth 198 Terry Francises' - EPL 2017-18

essentially mou is the ian paisley of football management.

who is the martin mcguinness of football management?

idk up to a point i feel like you can write off almost everything that happens within the football world as just so much nonsense. obviously one doesn't like to see Mourinho clowning Luke Shaw "it's ok to play him in the second half because he's on my flank and i can tell him where to stand", this is a man who has to go home and look his significant other in the eye etc. but on the other hand Luke Shaw makes more in a month or two than i am likely to make in my lifetime, so no matter how relentlessly he gets clowned by his manager there is only so much sympathy i can have and thus only so much dislike i can have for Jose Mourinho

the situation with the club doctor at Chelsea was disgusting and i would offer absolutely no excuse for that shit, this is why i have no problem dismissing Mourinho as a prick

but really. either you think that politics has a place in football, in which case, no you can NOT shut your eyes to who Pep Guardiola works for and how much they pay him without opening yourself up to the rankest hypocrisy (lol repeating myself for like the third time now, sorry) or you just close your eyes and ears, hold your nose and enjoy whatever football match you can illegally stream to your PC this weekend while pretending that the other stuff doesn't exist - in which case what Jose Mourinho does or does not say to the press about his players, or whether he turns up and plays the most negative, tedious anti-football one could imagine, all of that shit is just totally irrelevant (not the Eva Carneiro thing tho)

either way, you can get to fuck trying to talk like there is any moral dimension being a top flight football manager, beyond a certain point. if there is then they are all implicated, and if there isn't then what is the problem here beyond you disliking the way a particular manager conducts his business

by which i mean (to circle back around to the original entry point), if we're talking in strictly football terms, then obviously Jose is gonna Jose and he's gonna say whatever he possibly can to try and rile up Pep before the derby. or if we're accepting that football is inherently political and that Premier League football matches are the forums place to be making political statements, well fuck then Pep Guardiola anyway and how can you possibly highroad one manager at the expense of another

an absolutely disastrous pair of posts but i think you can probably catch my drift in spite of the multiple errors

Not bad posts but we disagree

LG otm re mourinho

and hilariously threatened by poch <3

Good posts allround. We cool WD, though tbf Mou did manage FRANCO'S TEAM ;)

LG otm re Mourinho indeed. Having a hard time accepting him at ManU, and that won't change. I didn't understand his appointment then and don't understand it still, from a football pov. He's good at what he does, but what he does - to me - doesn't fit with ManU. It was desperate times after Moyes and LvG and getting Mou was a desperate measure. I still hope he leaves and we get a manager who wants to play more attacking. More like... Pep.

Meanwhile it's moyes_hero.jpg time

who is the martin mcguinness of football management?

Would obviously be some poacher turned gamekeeper who was a complete cunt of a player, violent and aggressive (off and on the field), but who, when he became manager, became a lily-white and holier-than-thou hypocrite. Must be a lot of those.

Maybe have to wait till Joey Barton is unveiled as the new Rangers manager.

far be it from me to say Keano but

Any footage of Wenger as a player

Not sure it's a fair rundown of McGuinness in any case but

True, it's a bit harsh, but then it was harsh on Ian Paisley to compare him to Mourinho.

Haaa

Fucking West Ham sinking my accie by lunchtime, what the hell is this all about

Arnautovic has looked almost competent at points in this.

Pity he's not playing GAA then eh

Stuart Pearce sent to the stands for kicking a ball into a skip outside the stadium from quite far away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z1kRhiPE0E

knockheart and izquiredo out for Brighton, no excuse not to arsehole this lot today.

Nyeetetteenghim nyihetsporr* have a strong team today imo

* I watch mainly on russian streams now

Wouldn't mind anyone keeping an eye on shaqiri tho

xp might was well resort to a russian stream, as my paid *PL* thingee has gone haywire and decided to broadcast QPR-Leeds live. fml

MOUNIE!

lol! we only score from set-pieces atm, but no complaints at this point.

If son is playing lwb to accommodate stinking Dele then poch out

He's not bad out there mind u

These Stoke lads they eh they like a pie I'd say

ffs the stream shit out for Mounie's 2nd, but I'm delighted he's back amongst the goals.

Defoe

https://imgtc.com/w/MVo5c5M

God bless Stoke and the eight goals a year they reliably ship to Spurs.

Whoa. Defoe replicates Van Basten '88.

Fucking hell Ben Teckay

Shades of the Kasami goal there. Palace stayed up and Fulham went down that season. Fully expecting a reprise

That Defoe goal is in the middle of the net ffs

I kid, I kid.

If son is playing lwb to accommodate stinking Dele then poch out

He was playing LW but whatever he was doing yesterday long may it continue. He's our best attacking threat right now and the only player we have like that, and on current form should be starting every game.

100%

Michy Batshuayi on the bench with a hot water bottle, Jonathan Pearce muses "I wonder what Chopper Harris would think of that".

Arsenal looking oddly porous today. Odd game.

Going by the team Klopp put out, this has the makings of a Championship style slugfest

starting solanke and ox ahead of firmino and coutinho seems like masochism

class goal that tbf

I love you mo salah

christ he is annoyingly good

fantastic and what allardyce deserves

probably just makes my combined Utd Liverpool XI now

That was amazing from Salah.

Everton are absolutely shite though. Hold the ball for more than five seconds you twats

its as bad an everton side as there has been in a long long time, dunno how people thought koeman was doing a good job in premier league

Ruuuuuuuuunnnnesss!