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fair enough

I can't recall for sure but I think I've seen when this obvious maneuver is attempted but no one takes the bait and the song remains conspicuously unplayed

there is no reason for them to leave and come back, if you are gonna play a few extra songs just play them

― marcos, Friday, December 8, 2017 4:33 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i disagree, i like the spacing & the break in the set. good for pacing. lots of encores are 20+ min

And they have to pee at some point.

chinavision - sorry for the misunderstanding

second hand smoke in the world has been virtually eliminated + it's dramatically reduced the risk of cancer i feel

― flappy bird, Friday, December 8, 2017 8:04 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Come on ~feel~ the flappy bird

I dunno if it was said years ago but concerts should start at 7 p.m. and end by 8 p.m. (I felt this way at 19 too).

no worries. xxpost

I would like to join all other grumps and declare the concerts should be quick, early, played at a reasonable volume, and offer seating.

xp. vancouver is very much not a 24 hour city yet for some reason if you go and see a show at a venue which isn't also a night club the headliner will generally not be on until after midnight. it's abominable

https://i.imgur.com/G6D4a6R.jpg

ilxor cbesinger innovated the legendary heckle of yelling "one more song!" after a band's first song

Jeff otm, the real reason for an encore is for bands to take a breather, cool off, pee, before they come out to do a couple hits and fan favorites to close out the show

if sets weren’t overly long this wouldn’t be a thing, but if it’s an expensive show in a giant venue it makes sense. people who aren’t super fans or have kids can leave early to get to their cars before the rush

“one more song!” after the first song is classic and the most amazing heckle

I like multi-band bills fine, but imo all venues should be required to have two separate stages (with redundant backline, PA, and drums) so as to minimize turnover time between bands.

Agree generally about the false feel of saying stuff like "we've got one more song for you" when everybody knows full well you aren't anywhere near done.

chanting "three more songs!" after the first song, then "two more songs!" after the second song and so forth until you chant "no more songs" nonstop till the band leaves the stage

^ lacks wit

not attending shows of bad bands. The ultimate heckle.

I like multi-band bills fine, but imo all venues should be required to have two separate stages (with redundant backline, PA, and drums) so as to minimize turnover time between bands.

― didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, December 8, 2017 5:22 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is idealistic but completely impractical and ime when venues have done this (like at fests like the one i mentioned) the 'floor stage' is shit, it sounds like shit, there's no backline, and it actually slows things down

I used to chant "play the one about Satan" at Deicide shows

Meaningless sex is good

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are you guys the same douche

And as im slippin outt
U whisperd desperate timezzz

infinity man, infinity man
infinity man meets sleepingbag man
they kind of agree, nobody wins
infinity man

Meaningless sex is good

― infinity (∞), Friday, December 8, 2017 9:03 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

isn't it better and easier to just jerk off
get it out of your system
why bother, so much hassle
meaningless sex sucks

Xp

Getting batman vibes

Am i right?

Flappy bird

We are not in agreement unfortunately

I presume that if all the participants are eager and fully engaged with one another during in the act, then it will in all likelihood be good sex.

otoh, "meaningless sex" is a pretty vague and meaningless phrase. how much meaning is required to bestow meaning? because I find it hard to think that utterly selfish and self-absorbed sex that negates one's sex partner's involvement could be considered "good".

imo, the very goodness of "good sex" implies some scintilla of meaning somehow crept into the event. you don't have to conceive a child or fall in love for the rest of your lives to achieve some sort of meaning.

My controversial opinion is that we need more diversity of all kinds here. Racial and gender diversity most of all, but also ideological. I’d welcome a conservative. Like if Ross Douthat wanted to post here I’d be game; it would add some variety to our conversations. A Jesuit priest or something could be interesting. Would also be down to get some truly radical left wing posters. Maoists, antifa types, Andrea Dworkin type feminists.

The politics here are very genteel for the most part.

There are few to no places on the internet that host even marginally civil conversations between true ideological adversaries. This will never be one, but I’d like a place like that, where I could watch the grand dialectic of our century unfold in real time.

In the past I have played the lonely liberal foil in at least three conservative forums. The biggest problem with occupying that role is that you attract a dozen opponents, all slinging arguments at you of various kinds, none of which is free of questionable assumptions, mischaracterizations of your position, or mere jabbing at you to see if they can make you squeal like a pig. The pile-on becomes too much to respond to in any reasonable fashion, and few, if any, minds are changed or even slightly modified.

If the colloquy could somehow be confined to single combat between champions, then it would be more interesting and sustainable. Painting a target on your shirt and wandering onto the shooting range doesn't seem to work out well.

Postscript: I eventually arrived at a rule of thumb, that internet adversaries will always look past whatever argument you actually make and automatically respond as if you made the argument they preferred to refute. The regularity with which this happened was so predictable that the only surprises came was when my words weren't twisted to suit my interlocutor's idea of what 'a liberal' ought to have said.

Maybe. If we could get a patient, likable conservative rather than a bomb thrower it could lead to productive conversations I think.

there already are people here with widely differing views on social issues

I went on a gun forum to figure out some things about selling my dad's collection. Clicking on the general talk forum was a terrible mistake.

Yeah we don’t need real conservatives when we have Mordy and Dmac

i follow a couple moderate conservatives on twitter as intellectual charity and i have to restrain myself from unfollowing them, like, weekly

you guys could send some “miss u” ilx mail to a few ex-ilxors but I get the impression half the the libertarian joke brigade have some skeletons

Mordy's is a weird case, ideologically, cuz on the one hand he's a typical Frankfurt school Marxist / leftist humanities gradstudent dbag, but he also reads moldbug and scott alexander and robin hanson. and on top of it, he's super fn religious??

i think i'd beat any current or recent ilxor at a libertarian ideological turing test

like academic libertarian or American politics libertarian

Cognitive libertarian?

i can handle someone like Will Wilkinson (who really reads like a standard issue neolib more than anything resembling a "libertarian" in 2017) but really fuck like 99.4% of those clowns

Xps played at a reasonable volume

Otm

I avoid almost all live music bc of this

Alcohol sucks

i will cosign that one

How does meaningless translate to selfish in sex

I appreciated Tombot's TMBG reference

My controversial opinion is that we need more diversity of all kinds here. Racial and gender diversity most of all, but also ideological. I’d welcome a conservative. Like if Ross Douthat wanted to post here I’d be game; it would add some variety to our conversations. A Jesuit priest or something could be interesting. Would also be down to get some truly radical left wing posters. Maoists, antifa types, Andrea Dworkin type feminists.

The politics here are very genteel for the most part.