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hasn't that practice been around for 20+ years though? it's w/e i dig it. clapping and theatrics are fun. but yeah genuine encores (and genuine second and third encores) are the best

I propose "noncores" where we all shout "one less song" and the band leaves a song or two early

ok here's something i don't fuck with: planned second, third, fourth encores. looking at you RADIOHEAD

music festivals are about anything but music therefore they suck

sure, your Coachellas, your Bonnaroos, your Lollapaloozas, yeah. not what i was talking about though- indie fests at small clubs that run 2 days are tight

my fave artists say "THIS IS THE ENCORE" during the final song so everyone knows what's up.

ugh i find that so annoying, if you're gonna do that just play the song and leave. That's easy sucking up to the crowd

anything that shames the audience is a++

Agreed

flappy o thats true

been to those

theyre cool

ILX has an entire bard devoted to controversial opinions. It is called I Love Music. Whatever opinion is posted there, it will soon be argued against or ridiculed by someone.

encores are dumb just play your show and leave

I propose "noncores" where we all shout "one less song" and the band leaves a song or two early

― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, December 8, 2017 4:04 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a good idea

Not controversial xxp

encores are dumb just play your show and leave

― marcos, Friday, December 8, 2017 1:29 PM (eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

such a contrived custom. always feels phony. and then if you're at a show with a shit-crowd they often don't even make the requisite noise at the end of the show that could be taken as putatively meriting the band coming back out.

encores are classic if you love the band though, and they happen to bring out that one song you've wanted for..not sure i want the band to play less music tbh

the "true" encore is when a mob of rabid superfans overwhelms security after the show and piles into the dressing room and DEMANDS one more song. any other encore is just performers being performative

there is no reason for them to leave and come back, if you are gonna play a few extra songs just play them

love when a band just happens to have not played a really obvious and well-loved song by the 'end' of the show

^ not talking about a obvious and well loved song. talking about a song that means something to me, but nice assumption there

observation

fair enough

I can't recall for sure but I think I've seen when this obvious maneuver is attempted but no one takes the bait and the song remains conspicuously unplayed

there is no reason for them to leave and come back, if you are gonna play a few extra songs just play them

― marcos, Friday, December 8, 2017 4:33 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i disagree, i like the spacing & the break in the set. good for pacing. lots of encores are 20+ min

And they have to pee at some point.

chinavision - sorry for the misunderstanding

second hand smoke in the world has been virtually eliminated + it's dramatically reduced the risk of cancer i feel

― flappy bird, Friday, December 8, 2017 8:04 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Come on ~feel~ the flappy bird

I dunno if it was said years ago but concerts should start at 7 p.m. and end by 8 p.m. (I felt this way at 19 too).

no worries. xxpost

I would like to join all other grumps and declare the concerts should be quick, early, played at a reasonable volume, and offer seating.

xp. vancouver is very much not a 24 hour city yet for some reason if you go and see a show at a venue which isn't also a night club the headliner will generally not be on until after midnight. it's abominable

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ilxor cbesinger innovated the legendary heckle of yelling "one more song!" after a band's first song

Jeff otm, the real reason for an encore is for bands to take a breather, cool off, pee, before they come out to do a couple hits and fan favorites to close out the show

if sets weren’t overly long this wouldn’t be a thing, but if it’s an expensive show in a giant venue it makes sense. people who aren’t super fans or have kids can leave early to get to their cars before the rush

“one more song!” after the first song is classic and the most amazing heckle

I like multi-band bills fine, but imo all venues should be required to have two separate stages (with redundant backline, PA, and drums) so as to minimize turnover time between bands.

Agree generally about the false feel of saying stuff like "we've got one more song for you" when everybody knows full well you aren't anywhere near done.

chanting "three more songs!" after the first song, then "two more songs!" after the second song and so forth until you chant "no more songs" nonstop till the band leaves the stage

^ lacks wit

not attending shows of bad bands. The ultimate heckle.

I like multi-band bills fine, but imo all venues should be required to have two separate stages (with redundant backline, PA, and drums) so as to minimize turnover time between bands.

― didgeridon't (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, December 8, 2017 5:22 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is idealistic but completely impractical and ime when venues have done this (like at fests like the one i mentioned) the 'floor stage' is shit, it sounds like shit, there's no backline, and it actually slows things down

I used to chant "play the one about Satan" at Deicide shows

Meaningless sex is good

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are you guys the same douche

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infinity man meets sleepingbag man
they kind of agree, nobody wins
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Meaningless sex is good

― infinity (∞), Friday, December 8, 2017 9:03 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

isn't it better and easier to just jerk off
get it out of your system
why bother, so much hassle
meaningless sex sucks

Xp

Getting batman vibes

Am i right?

Flappy bird

We are not in agreement unfortunately

I presume that if all the participants are eager and fully engaged with one another during in the act, then it will in all likelihood be good sex.

otoh, "meaningless sex" is a pretty vague and meaningless phrase. how much meaning is required to bestow meaning? because I find it hard to think that utterly selfish and self-absorbed sex that negates one's sex partner's involvement could be considered "good".

imo, the very goodness of "good sex" implies some scintilla of meaning somehow crept into the event. you don't have to conceive a child or fall in love for the rest of your lives to achieve some sort of meaning.

My controversial opinion is that we need more diversity of all kinds here. Racial and gender diversity most of all, but also ideological. I’d welcome a conservative. Like if Ross Douthat wanted to post here I’d be game; it would add some variety to our conversations. A Jesuit priest or something could be interesting. Would also be down to get some truly radical left wing posters. Maoists, antifa types, Andrea Dworkin type feminists.

The politics here are very genteel for the most part.