Amazon is definitely the worst at this point.
― Simon H., Friday, 8 December 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link
It's still Google and I can't imagine a worse company.
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Friday, 8 December 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link
what's the worst thing abt google
― niels, Friday, 8 December 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
The worst? I'll just sum it up in that they are the entry point for most of the Internet and know more about us than any other giant tech company and are scaling in a direction to know even more and become even more powerful. The company that knows the most is the most powerful. And it's not a company obsessed with privacy.
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Friday, 8 December 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
I'm curious about who's gonna win the AI war--my vague recollection of things I've read suggest Amazon has the tech necessary to make big leaps but its Google that has the largest (and so most useful) data sets.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link
AI is probably better described as machine learning, and Google is way ahead of AMZN.
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Friday, 8 December 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
haha i typed and then removed the phrase "machine learning" on the expectation tombot would arrive to shit upon it from a great height for some reason
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link
I anxiously await him to arrive and shit on both of us, it's always glorious.
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Friday, 8 December 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link
alexa cannot even tell me "what a choo choo sounds like"
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 9 December 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
we've gotcha covered big guy
it's
CHOOO CHOOOOOOO
― j., Saturday, 9 December 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link
dirupted machine learning
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 9 December 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
After I read that Gizmodo article I unplugged my Echo Dot and put it in a drawer
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 9 December 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
it's still listening tho
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Saturday, 9 December 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link
its in a drawer in a BAG ok
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 9 December 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
it can still hear your bag
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Saturday, 9 December 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
*hoos receives push notification*
"customers who stuffed their echo dot in this bag also bought:--128-pack wolf brand chili (no beans)--good housekeeping (12-month subscription)--amazon ginsu knife (neck-sized)
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Saturday, 9 December 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
"Alexa, what does a hoos bag sound like?"
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 9 December 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
"shamone"
― crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 9 December 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
Genuinely do not know why any of you nutbags voluntarily PAY to have a big tech company spy device in yr homes
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Sunday, 10 December 2017 09:18 (six years ago) link
http://gsb.haifa.ac.il/~sheizaf/ecommerce/timemagazine/intro.jpg
― © louis jagger/richards (Pillbox), Sunday, 10 December 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link
this was a good read. about things that are awful. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-07/how-rodrigo-duterte-turned-facebook-into-a-weapon-with-a-little-help-from-facebook
― davey, Monday, 11 December 2017 06:00 (six years ago) link
reposting from the Weinstein thread, h/t Simon H for catching this: https://gizmodo.com/silicon-valley-s-worst-apologies-of-2017-1821064631
I think the Best Buy one doesn't qualify (they're brick & mortar retail, their corporate hq is in the minneapolis burbs, and they committed a regrettable human error and said so) but there are some really good ones in there. key graf, imo:
As I mentioned earlier, tech companies love to point fingers at machines behaving badly. They spend a lot of time exalting their beloved algorithms as a solution to many of life’s grand problems, but they will not skip a beat before throwing them under the bus for the latest fuck-up. There is a hypocrisy in trying to boost one’s image using the same tools you’re exploiting as a scapegoat.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
Was it a resentful AI bot that wrote that
― badg, Monday, 11 December 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
This feels true to me as someone who uses the internet every day, but I also know it’s true because when The Verge partnered with Reticle Research to conduct a representative survey of Americans’ attitudes towards tech’s biggest power players, 15.4 percent of Facebook users said they “greatly” or “somewhat” disliked using the product, while 17 percent of Twitter users said the same. That made them the most disliked of the six companies in question, which also included Apple, Microsoft, Google, and Amazon. More than 10 percent of respondents described Facebook’s effect on society as “very negative,” and 10.5 percent said the same about Twitter — in both cases a higher number than the other four companies combined.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/28/16795090/internet-community-2017-post-mortem-tumblr-amino-drip-tinyletter
― maura, Thursday, 28 December 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
wow Amino looks like an amazing mess that's so great
― .oO (silby), Thursday, 28 December 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link
cash isn’t a problem for Amino, which raised $1.65 million in Series A funding last year.
― .oO (silby), Thursday, 28 December 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link
most people have no idea of the reach of Google or they'd hate it worse than Facebook
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link
google has useful products though (search engine, mail, drive, docs)
― niels, Friday, 29 December 2017 07:13 (six years ago) link
wave
― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 29 December 2017 15:58 (six years ago) link
orkut
― maura, Friday, 29 December 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
google has one useful product
then bought another useful product
― infinity (∞), Friday, 29 December 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link
I thought they developed maps, mail, docs, drive themselves?
― niels, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
o i forgot abt maps
thats true, but i feel like apple maps is better imo
the rest i feel are not that great, like gmail steals all yr info and sells it while something like hotmail/microsoft weirdly enough feels safer
― infinity (∞), Friday, 29 December 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
Apple maps is not better.
― DJI, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
Apple maps is horrible.
― pplains, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:49 (six years ago) link
gmail, the useless product used by more than 1 billion people
― Karl Malone, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
the way google has insinuated itself into so many enterprise situations should be causing people to scream holy hell
― maura, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link
i do scream holy hell maura rly i do
― infinity (∞), Friday, 29 December 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
google docs is a great free platform imo, use sheets quite a lot too - better than excel by now, imo
I've no idea why hotmail, which is terrible to use, would be "safer" than gmail, tbh unless you only send encrypted mails (or only send emails to people using encrypted email servers) I don't see the difference (apart from gmail basically being faster and better than outlook
drive also my goto, prefer it to dropbox, great syncing and indexing
I would never use any other maps service than google maps
― niels, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
otm
but somehow i know that i won't literally scream holy hell until one of these companies (google, amazon, facebook, apple, microsoft) merges with another.
― Karl Malone, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link
Android also much better than iOS imo, at least I can do anything faster on an Android device and really enjoy that it's customizable
― niels, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
I hate every google product and do my best not to use any of them
― .oO (silby), Friday, 29 December 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link
so yeah, the hegemony of google is bad, but their products are simply the best atm imo (unlike FB which is horrible, they're leading the market by chance/being there first)
if only Google paid taxes and didn't have their servers in USA where apparently NSA has a claim to look into any data transfer
― niels, Friday, 29 December 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link
why is apple maps bad? i kno they got bad press w the australians who almost went off a cliff or whatever but google maps takes me into dangerous ways all the time in the city
apple takes me through major roadways and it feels easier to drive on those streets
wasnt gmail hacked before? i dont remember hotmail ever being hacked
― infinity (∞), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
why is apple maps bad, I dunno, cause it's clumsier, slower and just not as powerful as gmaps, kinda like why is Libre Office not as good as Microsoft Office
― niels, Friday, 29 December 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
Here is a great link why Apple Maps is way behind Google Map:
https://www.justinobeirne.com/a-year-of-google-maps-and-apple-maps
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
all i see there is google overoptimizing probably to gather more data for whatever evil way they want to take over the usa then the world
― infinity (∞), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
Google is gathering data at a significantly faster rate than Apple is with regards to Maps. Their machine learning capabilities are significantly above Apple's, which means that Google's is not only gathering more data but able to do more with it.
― Lyudmila Pavlichenko (dandydonweiner), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
specifically, more able to sell advertisements against your behavior patterns
― .oO (silby), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
are they able to do more w it though? how many people actually use all those little functionalities? its the same w all their failed products
https://www.computerworlduk.com/galleries/it-vendors/google-graveyard-3508070/
― infinity (∞), Friday, 29 December 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link