PHANTOM THREAD: Paul Tomas Anderson, Daniel Day-Lewis, Fifties London

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Most great anythings show their seams!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:19 (eight years ago)

Boogie Nights and Magnolia never struck me as anything more than wildly uneven, blatantly derivative provocations upon original release, and I haven't cared to revisit them.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:22 (eight years ago)

That is true! And yet.

ryan, Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)

Advance P Brad 5 Star review to be taken under the usual advisement:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/dec/07/phantom-thread-review-daniel-day-lewis-paul-thomas-anderson

Akdov Telmig (Ward Fowler), Friday, 8 December 2017 10:17 (eight years ago)

three weeks pass...

I won't say yet what I think one of the major themes of this film turns out to be. The elders in the Upper West Side audience were a bit baffled.

Anyway, stands with Inherent Vice as Anderson's best. Variously put me in mind of The Archers, Welles, Hitchcock, Eyes Wide Shut.

(also if you go to a 70mm screening, at least in NYC, you get a glossy program book)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 January 2018 16:46 (eight years ago)

btw it's not boring

DDL v involved with the scripting

http://ew.com/movies/2017/11/02/phantom-thread-paul-thomas-anderson-interview/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 January 2018 18:10 (eight years ago)

there are definite roots in Rebecca and Suspicion, but then detours you can't anticipate.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 January 2018 18:14 (eight years ago)

this was great. had no idea jonny greenwood did the soundtrack, which was just fantastic.

iatee, Tuesday, 2 January 2018 05:13 (eight years ago)

Made a point of driving 2+ hours over the holidays to catch this in the 70mm "special presentation" and it was worth all the time and hassle. Easily my favorite movie of the year as soon as it ended. Very very not-boring and PTA's shortest since Punch-Drunk Love.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 2 January 2018 08:39 (eight years ago)

only skimmed the review as i havent seen this yet but anthony lane called ddl the federer of film

johnny crunch, Thursday, 4 January 2018 19:59 (eight years ago)

it's a cute analogy

Number None, Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:21 (eight years ago)

Film Comment feature

https://www.filmcomment.com/article/paul-thomas-anderson-phantom-thread-love-after-a-fashion/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 January 2018 20:42 (eight years ago)

Q: Is it violent/sadomasochistic? Anderson is so effective w/ scenes of pain and suffering I actually have to be careful which of his films I watch in theaters. During TWBB and TM I came close to panic attacks...

rb (soda), Thursday, 4 January 2018 22:13 (eight years ago)

this movie is incredible

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:35 (eight years ago)

i finished watching it and immediately bought a ticket for a 70mm showing

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:37 (eight years ago)

soda: not in a way you would expect, but yes, discreetly.

costume designer Mark Bridges:

I always do try to keep in mind how things are going to photograph. That’s why there’s not a ton of black in the film. I don’t love how black photographs. We made a tux for Daniel that was black. I had hoped it would be like a midnight blue, but at the end we decided on black. So I’m always mindful, as a cinema costume designer, how things photograph, but then I also try to use fabrics that would have been used at the time and be realistic about that. We had a lot of sources: Some of the fabrics came from Italy, some from America, some from London — just trying to get all of the fabrics that evoke the 1950s that were still around....

I always try to take a backseat to what the actor is doing. Especially Lesley Manville: I love it that you’re referring to her dresses as black because Paul wanted them black, and I said, “No, no, no. We have to do them in gray, so they photograph with a little bit of life to them.” It can’t be like running around in a nunnery or something. It’s already a tough, mysterious character who’s solitary. I originally wanted her to be a navy, but Paul had the idea of black. So we settled somewhere quite comfortably in this gray motif for her work clothes. We were informed by the women who were, essentially, the saleswomen at Balenciaga, and you see it all the way through any reference to that period: They would wear navy and pearls, very simple, and allow the fashions to stand out, and I think that’s what we did with Lesley. Of course, she has impeccable tailoring, she is representing the house, but the darkness of her business attire was really something Paul wanted to go with Lesley’s pale skin. There’s also charting “fisherman’s daughter into designer’s muse” as far as Alma goes. But then there’s also trying to be time and place appropriate, and not upstage or take you out of the story with something fancy that’s going to distract you. The things that do distract you in this story are story points, so I feel OK about that.

http://filmmakermagazine.com/104097-clothes-make-the-man/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 January 2018 23:26 (eight years ago)

I loved this, of course

Basically a romantic comedy

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Friday, 12 January 2018 07:44 (eight years ago)

I enjoy PTA’s seemingly central concern with the relationships of emotionally stunted monomaniac weirdos

Anyway since I’m a weirdo I thought this was the most romantic thing I’ve seen since the Mad Max Fury Road blood donation scene

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Friday, 12 January 2018 07:50 (eight years ago)

Johnny Greenwood exceeded himself here I think.

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Friday, 12 January 2018 07:52 (eight years ago)

Quite a remarkable film. Per Morbz's comments earlier, you sense the cinematic bedrock but it doesn't stay there. Score, costume and cinematography all standouts but the shifting dynamics between the central three actors carried them all even further.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:35 (eight years ago)

I liked that despite being a “period piece” this could easily have taken place in the future

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:47 (eight years ago)

Yeah the trappings and setting are far from unimportant, but this isn't a _Crown_-style hyperfetishization and formalism.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 January 2018 23:52 (eight years ago)

Has anyone here yet seen it in a 70mm screening? If yes, is it worth a surcharge? (Will probably see it tomorrow in 70mm.)

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Monday, 15 January 2018 00:03 (eight years ago)

Yeah that was the screening we saw -- it looked great and the brochure's nice, but make or break, I dunno. There's enough gorgeous shots happening to make it all work in that format, though.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 January 2018 00:20 (eight years ago)

i didn't pay a surcharge... however, by the 10th day of projection, there were already hairline scratches in the print.

PTA actually shot it in 35, it was blown up to 70.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 January 2018 02:50 (eight years ago)

I absolutely loved this and plan to see it again ASAP.

ryan, Monday, 15 January 2018 02:59 (eight years ago)

Going for round 2 tomorrow

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Monday, 15 January 2018 05:27 (eight years ago)

excuse my ignorance but what would be the advantage of seeing it on 70MM rather than on digital which, presumably has the same ratio and will be projected at the same size? will it be discernably different?

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 15 January 2018 22:27 (eight years ago)

texture, babe

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 01:51 (eight years ago)

grain

scratches

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 01:58 (eight years ago)

PTA's best film.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 18:01 (eight years ago)

very possibly!

I can't tell whether the gowns are any good though.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 January 2018 19:24 (eight years ago)

I didn't expect the last 15 minutes, I gotta admit. I'm still thinking about it.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 19:30 (eight years ago)

I'd say the opening sequence, first breakfast scene, Victoria Hotel (rarebit!), and through Alma's full integration in the business is the most sustained, exciting of PTA's career. I was holding my breath.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 19:31 (eight years ago)

"chic"

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:50 (eight years ago)

FILTHY littlte word

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:51 (eight years ago)

Manville as Cyril smoothing her hair over her temples was great throughout.

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:52 (eight years ago)

Every time PTA held Manville's face in close-up I froze. What a marvelous camera object. She gave the best performance.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:00 (eight years ago)

I liked that despite being a “period piece” this could easily have taken place in the future

― The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby

like A Quiet Passion, it shows the Archers' influence.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:01 (eight years ago)

Every time PTA held Manville's face in close-up I froze. What a marvelous camera object. She gave the best performance.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:00 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agreed, she is quite something.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:37 (eight years ago)

I may go to Memphis next week to see this on a large screen. There's no way it will come to my little rooty-poot town.

WilliamC, Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:40 (eight years ago)

seeing this tomorrow morning, v excited

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:48 (eight years ago)

me too. can't wait!!!

flopson, Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:51 (eight years ago)

I really liked it. Nevertheless I'm not sure I'd rate it higher than Boogie Nights, Punch Drunk Love, Inherent Vice, or The Master. I loved There Will Be Blood at the time but its meme saturation in the decade since its release has diminished my memories of it. Magnolia was my favorite movie when I was 11 and I don't think I've sat it thru the whole thing since, so I'll reserve judgment. Still, this was a fantastic film. Unfortunately Sofia Coppola beat PTA to the punch with the poisonous mushrooms device in The Beguiled last summer. The "arthouse 50 Shades of Grey" comment ended up being pretty otm! Their tastes were indeed unconventional. Love wins.

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:23 (eight years ago)

spoilerz!

The Beguiled is actually from 1971 btw

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:26 (eight years ago)

in the last cooking scene, during which DDL chews so meticulously, I thought his much-loathed butter would knock him over.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:34 (eight years ago)

oh hoy haw, you know what I mean. lighting & atmospherics of PT & Coppola's movie were very similar, especially in the mushroom scenes. not a knock, just an unfortunate coincidence. took some of the dramatic edge off for me, but didn't matter in the end when it was just a kink for them.

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:36 (eight years ago)

"I'm hungry"

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:37 (eight years ago)

I can't tell whether the gowns are any good though.

They're gorgeous. I'd say they were true to the period, but do they ever specify when in the 1950s this is supposed to be?

And I was reminded of The Dragon Painter (1919), regarding the relationship between an artist and his muse...and the idea that it may be the muse's responsibility to shake up the artist's life in one way or another.

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:40 (eight years ago)

do they ever specify when in the 1950s this is supposed to be?

No, and I was trying to make out details in the New Year's Eve radio address, no luck.

flappy bird, Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:42 (eight years ago)


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