nostalgia is underrated.
there is a need to intellectualize and perform an armchair analysis to dismiss the enjoyment of recurring characters, imagery, story mythos, etc. of past works and the "Infantilism" of modern culture. to do performative penance for your complicity in capitalist consumption. to act out the discerning consumer, one who realizes the emptiness of capitalism, and symbolically sacrifice your idols.
there is a tendency to dismiss nostalgia and to dismiss the emotional attachment. personally as i get older i find myself looking to the past more and more. as i progress through my life and watch people pass away or depart in other ways, it makes an emotional and Jungian sense to return to the celebrated symbolic language of our youth, to re-create via imagery, sounds, sensory input (much as a cosplaying magician/Kabbalist may have done hundreds of years ago). remembering the good times of your life can be an indulgent experience but it is a natural one for all of us. the 30 year cycle may be a capitalist invention but is permeates the subconscious of all engaged in pop culture, it is a real and symbolic language.
certainly there is something to be said about re-evalutating the past, looking at the nostalgia and seeing how our views on the past have changed, how we may have done things differently, etc. but in general the knee-jerk gut reaction against nostalgia (see abuse of the term "Arrested Development") feels a like common thing these days. maybe there is always this kind of reaction against consumable media but i think attacking the emotion itself is misplaced.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:11 (eight years ago)
nostalgia is both underrated and overrated. all things in moderation
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:43 (eight years ago)
There are definitely legit criticisms of nostalgia (particularly to the extent that it's a blinkered reflection which conveniently skirts past anything regressive) but most of the criticism seems more indicative of embarrassment about the forces which shape us before we start feeling the overwhelming urge to impress other people with the maturity of our critical faculties.
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:54 (eight years ago)
i get nostalgic about making love to a particular woman (different ones at different times, depending on my mood)
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:59 (eight years ago)
hey now
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:00 (eight years ago)
wistful might be the right word
or catholic guilt
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:02 (eight years ago)
"All things in moderation" should be retired
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:09 (eight years ago)
'All things in moderation' in moderation, imo.
― Ripped Taylor (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:11 (eight years ago)
Course it shouldn't but that is a good controp
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:11 (eight years ago)
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Wednesday, December 6, 2017 1:09 PM (two minutes ago)
from a health perspective it's quite useful actually
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:13 (eight years ago)
did irishman oscar wilde rly say everything in moderation incl moderation?
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:15 (eight years ago)
mods in moderation, been saying this on this here board for years
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:20 (eight years ago)
b4 wilde???
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:21 (eight years ago)
yeah he did
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:23 (eight years ago)
pwnd!
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:25 (eight years ago)
Except potatoes.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:26 (eight years ago)
controp is brilliant coinage, sturdy and elegant
― fuiud, mac (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:01 (eight years ago)
http://www.kgbreport.com/images/kovacsepitaph.jpg
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:36 (eight years ago)
Hypocrisy isn't bad, actually it's good because at least the hypocrite knows what's right even if they don't do it
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:24 (eight years ago)
there's an ilx post i think of sometimes that's along the lines of "any attitude beyond total apathy produces hypocrisy"
― brimstead, Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:27 (eight years ago)
Hypocrisy is like the factory setting for human beings. We're basically walking talking self-mythologizing cognitive dissonance machines by default.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:34 (eight years ago)
Walt Whitman had some words for this i think
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:49 (eight years ago)
XP disagree but then we prob know different humans
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:50 (eight years ago)
kinda wish Ernie Kovacs drank more moderately on the night he crashed the car
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:52 (eight years ago)
all the greats were alkies
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:55 (eight years ago)
xxpost By default, I says. You can always pry open the control panel and futz with the settings but that takes (deeeeeeep siiiiiiiiigh) effort.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:56 (eight years ago)
harmless contradictions are fine
makes things interesting
like saying i love potato fries then ordering sweet potato waffle fries
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:58 (eight years ago)
I think adolescents care a great deal about hypocrisy, and adults just care about what gets done? But that's probably my own bias.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:59 (eight years ago)
Otm
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:01 (eight years ago)
I guess in one sense it's better to know what's right and not do it then to not know what's right and not do it. I think the badness of hypocrisy has something to do with its undermining your position to make moral demands on other people. If you make a moral demand on others that you're not willing to satisfy yourself, then you're basically contradicting the demand.
― jmm, Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:01 (eight years ago)
Do as I say, not as I do!
In his essay about Lynch, DFW swears up and down that the neighbor at the end of Blue Velvet actually eats a bug immediately after broadcasting her disgust about a bird eating a bug. If true, it's probably the canniest observation of human behavior in cinema history.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:04 (eight years ago)
Nobody has any right to make moral demands on another
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:07 (eight years ago)
apologize for that immediately
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:17 (eight years ago)
fuck you your hat is horrible sorry
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:19 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzgtLXa57i0
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:20 (eight years ago)
80% of 'hypocrisy' is just things being different. 'How can you be against the death penalty when you eat meat?' Stuff like that.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:21 (eight years ago)
that isn't hypocrisy, that's a poor misreading of what hypocrisy is by the person that utters it
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:24 (eight years ago)
yep
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:25 (eight years ago)
Even nihilists look both ways before crossing the street.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:34 (eight years ago)
"some communists RATM are, they accept payment for their CDs!"
― fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:37 (eight years ago)
FWIW, I feel like most of the rampant hypocrisy that people are engaged in almost all of the time is nothing catastrophic. It's mostly like: my self-perception is not a wholly accurate reflection of my engagement with the world. It's just important imo to be aware that these things will always be at least a little out of sync and to always be tweaking.
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:46 (eight years ago)
Most things are nothing catastrophic fyi
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:50 (eight years ago)
Thank u, I have updated my i
― Smoothie Newton (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:51 (eight years ago)
Shoots finger gun, winks, makes click noise
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 December 2017 17:52 (eight years ago)
I guess in one sense it's better to know what's right and not do it then to not know what's right and not do it.I think there's a solid case to be made that the former is worse than the latter!
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 December 2017 18:15 (eight years ago)
I guess in one sense it's better to know what's right and not do it then to not know what's right and not do it.
Björk is unlistenable
― flappy bird, Thursday, 7 December 2017 19:28 (eight years ago)
I don't want to listen to her but I suppose other people do.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 19:29 (eight years ago)
not many people feel that way(at least i'm keeping with spirit of thread)
― fuiud, mac (rip van wanko), Thursday, 7 December 2017 19:36 (eight years ago)
you should actually believe it.oops n/m
― fuiud, mac (rip van wanko), Thursday, 7 December 2017 19:37 (eight years ago)