This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

It's the people who've watched A Quiet Passion that deserve an award.

What's this Nixon performance y'all keep going on about?

― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, December 3, 2017

If I've accomplished anything in this godforsaken place I like to think it's helping the public to see what a know-nothing little bastard Rubio is.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) December 2, 2017

A Quiet Passion was the best film of 2016, but only award eligible this year.

Oh I do love it when we talk release date eligibility.

yes, Frederik doesn't get enough chances to be a supercilious dick.

The only rhythm of courtship that interests me is "Let's screw."

then you should've loved Beach Rats.

David Edelstein's Top 10:

http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/the-10-best-movies-of-2017.html

Film critics conspiring to hate me.

I really wanted to like Valerian but it was awful

Will watch this on my lunch break, but here's David Ehrlich's annual top 25 montage: https://vimeo.com/245670075

Film critics conspiring to hate me.

Rather, they welcome your hatred!

I watched _Girls Trip_ yesterday, Haddish is indeed infectious but man that movie sucks

I'd rather people see Girls Trip than Thor: Ragnarok.

Nick Schager's list has the honor of being called "wackjobby" by that scumshit Jeff Wells:

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a52209/best-movies-of-2017/

Didn't know Tony Perkins' son Osgood had made a horror feature (#9).

Nick's list is the running one he updates ever month or two. That's where he stood at the beginning of November.

Didn't know Tony Perkins had a son!

oh how I hated Hounds of Love.

The Lost City of Z and Marjorie Prime, yay. Dunkirk feh

yeah I think Z is the best thing I saw this year

Tony Perkins had 2 sons with his wife Berry Berenson (sister of Marisa); she died on one of the 9/11 flights.

still think BPM is at the top of my list.

Just submitted a list today and starting to feel pretty awful that I haven't been able to snag a viewing of Phantom Thread yet.

Sight & Sound poll results apparently leaked a bit early:

http://www.worldofreel.com/2017/12/get-out-tops-sight-sound-poll-as-film.html

1. Get Out, dir: Jordan Peele
2. Twin Peaks: The Return, dir: David Lynch
3. Call Me by Your Name, dir: Luca Guadagnino
4. Zama, dir: Lucrecia Martel
5. Western, dir: Valeska Grisebach
6. Faces Places, dir: Agnes Varda
7. Good Time, dirs: Ben and Josh Safdie
8. Loveless, dir: Andrey Zvyagintsev
9. Dunkirk, dir: Christopher Nolan
9. The Florida Project, dir: Sean Baker
11. A Ghost Story, dir: David Lowery
12. You Were Never Really Here, dir: Lynne Ramsay
12. BPM, dir: Robin Campillo
12. Lady Macbeth, dir: William Oldroyd
14. God’s Own Country, dir: Francis Lee
14. The Shape Of Water, dir: Guillermo del Toro
16. Let the Sunshine In, dir: Claire Denis
16. Mudbound, dir: Dee Rees
16. Strong Island, dir: Yance Ford
16. I Am Not Your Negro, dir: Raoul Peck
16. Personal Shopper, dir: Olivier Assayas

sigh, cultists

Lol, love the tie for ninth.

Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015) pic.twitter.com/hmxlT4YPhY

— Merry Carolmas (@CGRunyon) November 19, 2017

has anyone here caught the Ramsay?

US opening is April

was I alone in being kinda nonplussed by Mudbound

there've been a number of meh reviews

Actual article posted now. Leak was accurate:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/best-films-2017/

Annual Erhlich Vid

https://vimeo.com/245670075

Cahiers du Cinema

1. Twin Peaks: The Return (David Lynch)
2. Jeannette: The Childhood of Joan of Arc (Bruno Dumont)
3. Certain Women (Kelly Reichardt)
4. Get Out (Jordan Peele)
5. The Day After (Hong Sang-soo)
6. Lover For a Day (Philippe Garrel)
7. Good Time (Josh and Benny Safdie)
8. Split (M. Night Shyamalan)
9. Jackie (Pablo Larraín)
10. Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk (Ang Lee)

I wondering, is The Square's absence from the Sight and Sound list because the critics didn't like it or because it hasn't been widely enough seen?

The former, surely, since you have Zama/ Western/Faces Places at 4,5 and 6.

I guess people are pissed about Twin Peaks turning up on these lists

Cahiers du Cinema: Split? A little confused, real sore thumb in that list.

Simon H: I'm amazed at the Mudbound hype too. Solid but not spectacular in any way, and had a couple really poor sequences. The cockpit scene should have just been edited out if they didn't have the budget - it took me right out of the film. Given the subject matter and the buzz, I expected more of an emotional kick.

Maybe the sound team should get a nomination though because lord did I grimace at the sound of the leg re-break. Ugh.

The Square hasn't yet been released in the UK, which might partly account for its absence from the S&S poll in particular. But it also isn't very good.

The editor wrote in Sight & Sound that they'd actively encouraged those polled this year to vote for any moving pictures, not just cinema, so I guess that boosted Twin Peaks.

Lol at Cahiers stanning for Split. Is it because he's an auteur?

Only one person in the printed edition gave Detroit a vote (haven't checked the online-only ballots). What a huge fall from grace. I thought it was terrific.

& that Ang Lee film.

I guess people are pissed about Twin Peaks turning up on these lists

people need to grow the fuck up

"Movie or TV?" issue came up when I tried to put Eastbound & Down on my 2009 Village Voice poll. Then and now I cite The Hoberman Rule. pic.twitter.com/a8nCamZvPi

— BANDZ STACKHAGE (@NickPinkerton) December 5, 2017

When I see an Oliver Stone film that's not JFK on a list, I remember the Lord Sotosyn Rule.

Cahiers du Cinema: Split? A little confused, real sore thumb in that list.

Try the one right below that one on the list.

Try the one right below that one on the list.

Marginally better than Split, but I can at least understand people hyping up Portman's overacting. I could have sworn that was a 2016 release anyway.

let's just leave release dates alone bcuz they always vary! no one seems to realize that New York is what counts

no one has had the opportunity to see the entirety of TP Season 3 in a cinemaaah, hence it doesn't qualify, case closed.

also J Hoberman loves Dogville and hates Abbott & Costello so fuck him forever

Not going to link the Broadcast Film Critics Awards nominations, because some things are even too shameful for the detrius thread.

Suffice it to say, they're betting the farm on The Shape of Water being the big Oscar winner this year. Because that's their entire reason for being.

NYT crix weigh in: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/movies/best-movies.html

I haven't seen it but I just can't imagine the fishfucking movie catching on in that way.

ugh at Warlocaust of the Apes making one of those lists