b/c of the whole desert thing?
― bnw, Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i think the main thing is that it just seems irrelevant to the context here?
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link
lol bnw
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^ditto
― High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link
which is basically what slocki said. there's nothing inherently wrong with the phrase "a jew" or even "that jew", but it's reductive and weird in this context.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
What about bringing back "Jewess"?
― But not someone who should be dead anyway (Laurel), Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
she thought it was derogatory to refer to Jewish people as "Jews".
Also see "Mexican".
― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
what about the month of "Jew-n"
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Jack: It's not because you're a... I'm sorry. What... do you call... yourself ?Elisa: A Puerto Rican.Jack: No, I know you can say that but what do I call you?Elisa: Puerto Rican.Jack: Wow. That does not sound right.
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link
when i make hamantashen and give them to friends i sometimes refer to them as "jew treats", is that bad
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I would make it clear tho that even if you can call someone Jewish or a Jew, I'd still stay away from calling them a kike.
― Mordy, Thursday, 14 May 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
^^^lolz yeah not really a lot of grey area there
― High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link
sheeny mo collier
― velko, Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
too bad cankles can't add to this discussion
― velko, Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
My gf's mom was telling us about her hairdresser's trip to Moscow or whatever, and I was like, "Oh, is she Russian?" and my gf's mom said "Yes" and then, apropos of nothing, blurted out "She's also Jewish" -- which made it seem like it's all she can think about when she's getting her hair done and she just had to tell someone.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link
heheh
― s1ocki, Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
it's the "that" but also calling someone "a" jew seems like it has a bit of a pejorative connotation, just because it makes the jewishness the sole defining quality
the "that" doesn't actually do this - "jew" does alone - but it provides an assist to the othering
― "the whale saw her" (gabbneb), Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
ya, that's why i said also - the that just emphasizes it.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I imagine some of this depends on tone/motivation. If you're a Jew, or a Jewophile, and you're like, "AND HE'S JEWISH," that might just mean that you love Jews and you love mentioning it. (My family does this all the time with celebrities. In fact, there are some celebrities that we can't mention in any context without also mentioning they're Jewish.)
― Mordy, Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
see also canadian
― s1ocki, Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean, i think all jews do that, but canadians do too, and when it's a canadian jew, you better watch out.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
SHATNER!
― High in Openness (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
trifecta for me - montreal jew
― s1ocki, Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Gay Canadian Jew David Rakoff had a funny bit about this on This American Life years ago:http://www.thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=793
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link
all canadians know that episode
― s1ocki, Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I would imagine.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link
weirdly enough, i am going to a book launch for a jewish montreal TAL contributor in an hour.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 14 May 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
You can just say Jonathan Goldstein, it's OK.
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 14 May 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
jew.xls
― Nasty British and Short (hmmmm), Friday, 15 May 2009 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Great article calling out N0rm4n P0dh0r3tz:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/books/review/Wieseltier-t.html?_r=2&ref=books&pagewanted=all
― Mordy, Monday, 14 September 2009 05:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Shana Tova to the tribe!
― quincie, Friday, 18 September 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
haa great revive
― goole, Friday, 18 September 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
my best friend just texted me this. Shana Tova. And the year we're living in.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 18 September 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I am going to services tonight and tomorrow. I am like the best not-Jew ever.
― quincie, Friday, 18 September 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link
shana tova!
I ain't doin jackshit for Rosh Hashanah this year! well my wife might make some farfel and I will eat it but that's not really significant.
― Hat Trick Swayze (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 18 September 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Podhoretz seems to be living the Vilna Gaon’s adage — maybe he can find it in some encyclopedia — that the best way for a man to preserve his purity is never to leave his house.
damn dude!
― goole, Friday, 18 September 2009 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Shana Tova, dudes!
― Mordy, Friday, 18 September 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
quincie why aren't you Jewish
― holosystolic murmur and the thrill (gbx), Friday, 18 September 2009 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link
tryin to find a shul in this town where you don't need season tickets
― collardio gelatinous, Saturday, 19 September 2009 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link
apples + honey = A+
― bnw, Saturday, 19 September 2009 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link
my jewish friend called me up and said: "did you understand my textmessage?" i replied i did. "I wish you a happy new year too! Isn't it fantastic that a goy knows it's new year?" she replied I was turning Jewish. "But of course, I sell JEWELLERY!"
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Sunday, 20 September 2009 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
After more than two years of living in this neighborhood, my neighbors have finally discovered I might make a good Shabbos goyim. A neighbor knocked on my door at 9am today, asking if I could help her out, as she had forgotten to unscrew a lightbulb in a freezer, and needed to get in there.
― Pancakes Batman (Pancakes Hackman), Sunday, 20 September 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Shana Tova after the fact. Mmmmm leftover brisket and chicken soup
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 20 September 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha Pancakes that's happened to my ex a couple of times - he was strolling by the rabinnical college across the street one evening after dark and a guy came out and asked him to turn his bedroom light off o_0
― Dearth Disco (Trayce), Sunday, 20 September 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
kinky
― yo gotti gotti! (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 20 September 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
wanna flick my switch?
― velko, Sunday, 20 September 2009 23:56 (fifteen years ago) link
have i told you guys that my girlfriends all tell me i would make a very good jew? i'm very proud of it
― surm, Sunday, 20 September 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, I am in Jew School so it may happen some day, or not. Would be hard to be the only Jew in the entire family. One of my books for class is a "How to Keep Kosher" book; Mr. Que saw it and was like "UH PLEASE TELL ME WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE KEEPING KOSHER" 'cause y'know we're both pretty into bacon and lobster and cheeseburgers.
― quincie, Monday, 21 September 2009 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyway kugel is like soooooooo good; I ate a ton yesterday. Also threw some crumbs into the creek because I am emo like that.
Also: singing "A Wonderful World" at RH day 1 services classic or mega dud?
― quincie, Monday, 21 September 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Crut - its lucky that wasnt also the time N had his fly down on his pants, lol.
― Dearth Disco (Trayce), Monday, 21 September 2009 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link