Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

Clearly we need to start a separate "Vexing Vixens of the Dirtbag Left" thread.

It's an idiosyncrasy possibly, but I really like podcast vibes where the hosts seem to genuinely enjoy each other's company. And my two greatest pleasure from this show is when one of Felix's dumb obscure jokes makes Matt snicker and the sound of Amber's laugh. Reminds me of what I enjoyed about the Howard/Robin relationship when I first heard Stern.

special tingles in their bathing suit area

oh is this is how it was conveyed was it?

Wait are crushed not allowed any more?

― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:23 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i see this rhetorical construction on the internet all the time in the wake of weinstein et al (“what we’re not ALLOWED to do (x) anymore!?”) and it’s a terrible look. no this is not the time nor the place to express one’s crush on the one woman who is a part of this podcast

...anyway I'm glad she's been on more regularly of late

I'm curious what her music sounds like.

matt talks over amber all the time it drives me fucking nuts

though perhaps he just talks over everyone all the time and i just notice it more in that case

I think this is the Target anti-union vid they mock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTPx1Lh7ZuQ

Wait are crushed not allowed any more?

― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, November 22, 2017 9:23 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i see this rhetorical construction on the internet all the time in the wake of weinstein et al (“what we’re not ALLOWED to do (x) anymore!?”) and it’s a terrible look. no this is not the time nor the place to express one’s crush on the one woman who is a part of this podcast

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, November 22, 2017 11:52 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao mea culpa guys jesus

Somebody synced the video accompaniment to the live show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Pyo2Dc6btE

*cringes so hard i turn inside out*

why are you cringing?

Matt, Will, and Amber in the latest ep are a pleasant combo—less funny, but easier to listen to, like an Adult Contemp take on CTH.

Also, for the first time, the show's "smart kid piping up at the dinner table" aesthetic is explicitly acknowledged. I wonder if they're trying to move past that.

oh nice that's a refreshing lineup, haven't listened yet, will tonite

omg one woman in the KMART video is wearing a Too $hort Short Dogg's in the House shirt

I'm losing steam on them right now but I guess that's inevitable considering how hard I binged for over a year.

Yeah, that can happen. That’s part of the podcast binge fan arc, isn’t it.

yeah I'm in the same boat tbh. i listen to the episodes where the description sounds interesting basically

AdomianGorka pops up in today’s ep, for those interested

yeah i'm burnt out on it too. behind a few episodes. i feel like from now on i'll pay attention & listen when news is cracking, on slow weeks i've found myself skipping episodes.

just got their first newsletter though, it was funny lol

I've been liking Champagne Sharks a lot more than Chapo--they seem better able to talk about what's going on in the culture now

This show has always felt too zeitgeisty (in it's own little way) to really endure for very long. Not sure I can really imagine them getting any more popular than they already are.

I do like what i've heard of champagne sharks

Their subscriber numbers are still going up. I’m curious what effect(if any) their book will have

I think it'll be a New Jersey, just like the Maddox book

brad and angelina's kid wrote a book?

Entirely probable, but a diff with the Maddox book is that Maddox wasn’t tied into a burgeoning book-heavy political movement or sharing a borough with 10,000 social media reporters & writers who they all share a social network with

But the book probably ain’t hitting till, when? Next summer, when all the 2018 campaigns will be in heavy news rotation?

idk, their subscriber numbers have plateaued a little in the past couple months, which was inevitable at some point. might be just a blip and not intended as a criticism fwiw; i don't know if anyone every expected them to reach anything near the level of popularity they have. they got at least 1000 new subscribers each month from january to september!

today's episode is pretty good fwiw

xxp very good points, kingfish. maybe a more accurate comparison would be Jon Stewart/The Daily Show's 'America: the Book'?

also lol i love that they have matching adidas tracksuits now

Yesterday’s Champagne Sharks ep was a nice conversation with Jessa Crispin that will probably ruffle some feathers.

2 a week has been a good number to keep me from tuning out, but I didn't go backwards and binge once I started listening (circa NYer article) and I don't listen to anything else in the Chapo vein.

More serious lefty podcasts just end up gathering dust with the philosophy podcasts I'm subbed to - I'm listening while I drive while working, they're not very suitable in that environment.

maybe a more accurate comparison would be Jon Stewart/The Daily Show's 'America: the Book'?

To an extent, yes, but I think a difference here is that while the Daily Show book hit at the peak of their popularity/relevance in the ‘04 election, they were much more in a mass media form already, with millions of regular viewers, whereas this show has maybe 50-100k regular listeners in a far more (sub)niche venue

So who knows. Graphtreon will track it, same as they have so far.

Yesterday’s Champagne Sharks ep was a nice conversation with Jessa Crispin that will probably ruffle some feathers.

I don't think Crispin's argument about the need for non-public (or less public) channels to deal with allegations is not that different from the pieces a few weeks about about formalizing the "whisper network". (I'm only 20 mins in so I don't know if there's more controversial stuff later)

*all that different

also I understand the point of "popular contemporary feminists are only allowed to be Steinems, not Dworkins" but I'm uh also not sure that Lindy West fits neatly in with the criteria she lays out

Really enjoying the Will/Amber/Matt ep

Yeah it seems like the best dynamic is either Will/Amber/Matt or Will/Matt/Felix. And tbh I don't really feel like Virgil Texas adds much to the show, he's just like a midpoint between Will and Matt or something.

he's valuable as the data/polling wonk, otherwise he's just too "extremely online" for me, also a gamer

yeah his election breakdown recently was good

I would be totally okay with Felix and Virgil leaving the show tbh.

I need to go back and find the Frost/Christman movie podcasts

Amber > Felix > Matt > Will > Virgil

But I like them all

Yesterday’s Champagne Sharks ep was a nice conversation with Jessa Crispin that will probably ruffle some feathers.

― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Tuesday, November 28, 2017 3:15 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was an interesting listen. i like this show and listen every week w CTH.

loved the Gorka stuff. hahaha that voice. didn't he say something about absconding in a hot air balloon at one point? very James Bond villain. they need to reference the Matt Lauer desk button next time.

AdomianGorka’s first appearance explicitly mentioned his resemblance to Hugo Drax, the dude from Moonraker.

http://www.recoilweb.com/zeroed-sebastian-gorka-131578.html

Here's the absolutely insane gorka gun magazine interview they were talking about, for anyone who hadn't seen.

The second gorka call remains my favorite but they're all gold.

"Do you consider a surface level series of tattoos to be a 'deep tie' to an organization?"

I need to go back and find the Frost/Christman movie podcasts

Likewise, I wish they do more book club eps. I enjoyed the one on Mark Fisher.

what movies did they do? i remember when those dropped but never got around to them