the flat earth society is meeting here todayyyyyyyyyyyy

“I don’t believe in science,” said Hughes, whose main sponsor for the rocket is Research Flat Earth. “I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics and how things move through the air, about the certain size of rocket nozzles, and thrust. But that’s not science, that’s just a formula. There’s no difference between science and science fiction.”

Dunning-Kruger

nothing scientific about doing an experiment that proves a hypothesis

may offer some evidence towards natural selection

this is all so purely in the realm of not even wrong

Hughes only recently converted to flat-Eartherism, after struggling for months to raise funds for his follow-up flight over the Mojave.

i doubt his commitment to this cause.

I don't have the data to back it up, but I feel like the overlap between flat earthers and Darwin award winners is pretty sizable.

― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Sunday, 21 May 2017 17:23 (six months ago)

It's rare to read a pre-obituary. Godspeed, dude who's about to smear himself across the Mojave.

But that’s not science, that’s just a formula.

Does this person know what the word science means?

*trying not to mention Trump*

one of my 10th grade chemistry students just told me he's a flat earther

i asked him why, he said "because it looks flat to me"

i asked him about all of the evidence for a round earth (including photos from space) and his response was "that's just shit adults tell me, and most shit adults tell me is bullshit"

hard to argue with that

the argument is that "most" doesn't equate to "all"

ask him what thinks is on the other side of the flat earth. also what happens to planes when they fly to the edge of earth.

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It's a ridic position because this isn't even something so complex that you just have to take experts at their word about it. It's pretty easy to follow along step-by-step the logical path that leads to "Earth is a sphere", and there's numerous paths which lead to it. They're just too lazy to do it themselves.

internet flat earth people are insane cultists. there's no other explanation.
the amount of stuff they don't believe is real is baffling.

It's an infantile response to an uncertain, confusing world. "These 'adults'* don't have a 100% spotless record of telling me the truth about stuff, so therefore I will assume EVERYTHING they tell me is wrong googoogaga". You see the same thing with people post-2016 election going "well it's a poll and the prez election polls were wrong so therefore I totally dismiss it"
*for actual adults saying this, swap in "experts" or "scientists"

I had a conversation with one of these dopes where when confronted with the extremely obvious contradictions and fallacies in their 'theory' they then explained "well actually we're living inside an artificially generated construct so how could we really know, makes u think, etc".

this is a thread I never expected to get to 100 posts. makes me kinda depressed :/

yeah in some way I think this particular flashpoint is really symbolic of the current in-vogue strain of know-nothingism

they even made fun of flat-earthers in Encyclopedia Brown ffs

Was just checking to see how spectacular Mike Hughes's entrance to Valhalla was. Psssh. What a tease. But at least the update has some choice pull quotes.

His project has cost him $20,000, which includes Rust-Oleum paint to fancy it up and a motor home he bought on Craigslist that he converted into a ramp.

"My feeling is that one of the top executives at the Bureau of Land Management called Needles, California, saying ... 'What's going on? Who permitted this?'" Hughes said.

Plus, as he and his team were preparing to leave Wednesday, the motorhome/rocket launcher broke down in his driveway, he said.

just fell down a youtube rabbit hole on some local flat earthers' videos. basically, all of their questions can be answered by gravity. which they deny the existence of, of course

feel like i should give my 2 cents as a physics educator

what's funny is that some of these people actually are science-ing and doing good experiments, the problem is they're not proving what they think they're proving. they're just proving a basic assumption in physics - that a small enough piece of a large enough curve can be accurately approximated by a flat surface. similarly you could misuse erathosthenes' experiment to disprove the curvature of the earth (really you'd just be proving the assumption that at a big enough distance from the source, light rays are assumed to travel parallel to each other).

while it's kind of cool i guess that people are attempting to think scientifically the distrust of "book learning" is really sad. i feel like a lot of these people haven't done the basic research and just aren't aware of really simple proofs, like, say, eratosthenes' experiment. also even though they're exercising scientific thinking they're pretty bad at it, cf just not understanding what they're proving or disproving

hmmm...that might be true, but does any of that matter if we're living in a computer solution? just sayin

dude it is precisely by spotting and noting such inconsistencies in the programming of the matrix that we can bring the whole facade crashing down

he should have tried flying to tucson, arizona - well-established experiment for testing whether we are living in a computer simulation

lol tlg

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How could he know the lengths of the shadows at exactly the same time though?

Eratosthenes heard about a famous well in the Egyptian city of Swenet (Syene in Greek, and now known as Aswan), on the Nile River. At noon one day each year — the summer solstice (between June 20 and June 22) — the Sun’s rays shone straight down into the deep pit.
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Eratosthenes erected a pole in Alexandria, and on the summer solstice he observed that it cast a shadow, proving that the Sun was not directly overhead but slightly south.

first paragraph should be

Eratosthenes heard about a famous well in the Egyptian city of Swenet (Syene in Greek, and now known as Aswan), on the Nile River. At noon one day each year — the summer solstice (between June 20 and June 22) — the Sun’s rays shone straight down into the deep pit. They illuminated only the water at the bottom, not the sides of the well as on other days, proving that the Sun was directly overhead.

But how does he know exactly when noon is? Would that be using the shadows to prove the shadow lengths?

and just who IS this eratosthenes, anyway?

More like error-tosthenes, amirite?

He knows that on one day (Summer solstice, which civilisations have always been very good at noting and marking) there is no shadow at Syene, and some shadow the whole day at Alexandria - the shortest shadow will be the point at which the sun will be closest to being overhead.

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same tbh

he looks pretty happy about it. Blissful ignorance I suppose.

https://www.indy100.com/article/flat-earthers-reality-show-joke-7959556

(xps) insert 'blue balls' joek here...

email correspondence posted on guardian writer dawn foster's twitter account:
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"the suez canal is 100 miles long and there are no locks" is i think my favourite

https://www.flatearthconventionuk.co.uk/

3 day convention coming up in Birmingham, with talks by many "high educated heliocentric believers". Quotes from Tesla, Socrates and Neil deGrasse Tyson on the site!

The reality TV idea is fun, but I'm afraid that the participants will either be so suspicious of anyone involved that they would think they were being tricked whatever they were shown, or (and I reckon this is at least 80% of flat earthers) trolling.

"the suez canal is 100 miles long and there are no locks" is i think my favourite

The Standedge Tunnel is the longest, deepest and highest canal tunnel in Britain. It is 5,500 yards (5,000 m) long, 636 feet (194 m) underground at its deepest point, and 643 feet (196 m) above sea level.

I have been through this, it is deep and high at the same time, this might be confusing to Flat Earthers.

Flat Earthers not Ike and Tina fans, then?

I'm more curious about Tina's take on Sir John Ramsden's very narrow canal!

https://noizetv.vhx.tv/mad-mike-hughes-the-launch-or-non-launch/season:3/videos/to-the-world-the-end-the-begining

They still haven’t been able to get us a picture of the whole earth in one pic. I’m skeptical on space at all. Over 50 years later and still no actual proof that we’ve been out of low earth orbit

— jerry mcgregor (@benchmarksr) November 19, 2018