Is the work of Steven Soderbergh the most overrated thing ever?

I dig ILX's take that even though it may be froth Lucky Logan's a whole lot better cup of froth than Baby Driver. I concur.
What fun this movie is, everyone plays a blinder; David Holmes, Dan Craig, Adam Driver.. i wish Katie Holmes had been in it more.

til: riley keough is elvis' granddaughter. would sign up to the riley keough newsletter.

huge fan of driver in this. what a character. he was basically doing a comedy WV accent but it was probably better than anyone else's apart from some of the character actors, and the pageant girl. (daniel craig's accent was.. interesting. felt like he was going for tommy lee jones and almost got there) anyway i disagree with alfred that craig comes off best. driver felt real. does he smile once? if so i didn't see it. he was a character totally out of joint, out of time, out of place, slightly baffled by everything that doesn't involve the bar, which probably applies to a whole lot of veterans. tatum was just okay? it really could have been pretty much any hunky fella doing that role tbh (sorry channing). i loved the ford dealer. he brought on a lot of khaki, braided belt, white-ballcap flashbacks. btw i don't think that bar, if it existed in real life, would have had martini glasses, frankly. certainly not ones that clean.

Logan Lucky should have gotten its own thread. Driver and Tatum are fantastic. I could have done without the dumb brothers and the shitty automatic-driving car-dealer stepdad to Tatum's daughter, but it's a heist movie, so some folks have to be around to (almost) fuck everything up, and remind you that "legitimate" businessmen are (at least) as shitty as the thieves, respectively.

As cheap as it was, the pageant bit required significant mental exertion on my part to not turn into a puddle on the spot.

Tracer you make a good point about the types of cocktail glasses available in that sort of establishment, but we are living in the future now

As cheap as it was, the pageant bit required significant mental exertion on my part to not turn into a puddle on the spot.

since I became a parent I'll get all "no I just have something in my eye" at the cheapest stuff.

re: the iPhone-shot thriller mentioned earlier - Unsane is out 03/23

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/01/steven-soderbergh-interview-sundance-iphone-unsane-1201921769/

Asked if he would commit exclusively to shooting on iPhones going forward, he replied, “I’d have to have a pretty good reason not to be thinking about that first… There’s a philosophical obstacle a lot of people have about the size of the capture device. I don’t have that problem. I look at this as potentially one of the most liberating experiences that I’ve ever had as a filmmaker, and that I continue having. The gets that I felt moment to moment were so significant that this is, to me, a new chapter.”

WHts the point he only does cgi now anyway - coward!!!

Has anyone seen his 2001 cut? It's been pretty well scrubbed from the internet.

Oh wait I thought this was aboout Speilberg

man, what a waste of effort for everyone involved Logan Lucky was. It's got all the trappings of a fun twist on the heist movie but there's just...nothing there

yeah the enthusiasm mystified me

This movie was like the opposite of an idiot plot - instead Channing Tatum pulls off the heist because he's a superhero who can do anything, including predict the future.

Part of the fun of a heist movie is learning the minutiae of the heist plan, then seeing how the characters react when the heist (inevitably) falls apart. In this movie, everything just *works* first time and there's no tension, except the odd incidental fun detail, like Seth Macfarlane getting punched in the face.

1/2 way thru the televised mosaic, p good.. i like devin ratray a lot; generally feels like a less gritty "the night of"; some dialogue is a lil overwritten but nontheless enjoyable imo

Unsane might be the culmination of a decade of his films. Actually kinda great.

UNSANE: so good it’s crazy. Soderbergh conjures dizzying terror, evokes visceral emotion, and pretty much rewrites the deep-focus rulebook, using little more than the contents of my front-right pocket.

— Charles Bramesco (@intothecrevasse) March 15, 2018

preview next week!

Twitter dude pretty much otm.

opens in NY tomw

Boring after it turns into a slasher flick

Frederik and Bramesco not otm

will I fare better if I love slashers

Even tedious and tonally muddled ones?

feel like Soderbergh tried to semi-retreat to do things in a workmanlike way but people keep trying to figure out what angle he's playing

in the center of the just-off middlebrow target he's been hitting you get the impression he's trying to find a good project, or at least enjoys honing his craft

one of the writers of unsane is my FB friend and i kinda thought he was an ilxor. but maybe he isn't. i don't know how i know him.

one of (JG) is a music critic who wrote for sp1n, it seems.

one of them

I wondered if it was the same Bernstein!

It's not 'workmanlike', it's vibrantly experimental, and people enjoy it because of the newness, energy and joy in the aesthetics. And yeah, it's weird that it's coming from an old pro who've just fallen in love with new toys, but that's what it is.

ah yeah, I didn't mean this new project -- just the impression he's retreated in some way, or has pretended to retire/retreat a few times because he'd rather have less scrutiny on his works as _his works_

I don't think it's weird for him to use new toys, because that's pretty much what he does in a non-flashy way with every other production

the new toy is his old iPhone, and that part's fine – other than stressing the you-are-there shocks of the nuthouse sequences, it doesn't add appreciably to the verisimilitude of the narrative or whatever

Mosaic was* a totally new toy in terms of storytelling


*"is," it's still only a month or two old. But I'm only 1/3 of the way through it bcz it's fucking horrible to watch a story on a phone

Unsane spoilers to follow:

It's one of the most fascinatingly awful movies I've ever seen. At the beginning it seems like it has some chance at being a decent psychological thriller that paints the for-profit medical industry and the complacency of police and the legal system as the villains. Then it turns out that the actual villain is a psycho murderer, who tortures one victim by sandwiching his head between defibrillator pads, and kills another with a Steven Seagal-style neck break maneuver. The way it gradually escalates the schlock level from moderate to unbearable is really something to see.

I like Soderbergh's schlock side. Side Effects and Haywire are two of his best movies IMO. Might need to check this one out.

from jrn's summary this movie sounds fucking awesome

seconded

it's uninterestingly mediocre

It's fucking awesome. And the for-profit medical industry is clearly the (co-)villains.

Boring after it turns into a slasher flick

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, March 19, 2018 7:14 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah we prob won't agree on this one alfred

Slasher flicks = fine

"Soderberg makes okay Cuckoo's Nest knockoff with garrulous slasher denouement" = dud

You write that as if it makes sense...

Who wouldn't?

Impressive, at least for a while--up to the first long rubber-room scene--although I was very conscious of all the films it was stealing from: Cuckoo's Next (serendipitous I would see it today), Repulsion, Rosemary's Baby (probably The Tenant, too, which I haven't seen in ages), Get Out, Shock Corridor. I know Soderbergh's proximity to commercial success and getting-films-made has had some wild swings over the years--this is all some metaphor for the film industry, right?

the climax/coda seemed really haphazard, as if a narrative theme was dropped back in after the fact because someone remembered that angle wasn’t addressed, or there wasn’t a good ending they’d filmed

the extreme horizontality of ocean's twelve is a delight to me

not a single scene above ground level iirc

His new one seems to perhaps be Magic Mike for basketball

https://www.filmlinc.org/films/high-flying-bird/

He was on Bill Simmons' podcast and called out Under The Skin as a recent movie that he wished he had made, prompting me to finally watch that freaky-ass movie.

It's good!

watched Out of Sight as a family last night, everyone enjoyed it.