"When there's a whip there's a way."
"But you're not an orc."
"Context my dear Bilbo."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 November 2017 23:56 (eight years ago)
LotR isn't nearly horny enough source material for prestige tv, they'll have to work on that a bit― ciderpress, Monday, November 13, 2017 1:55 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkit is perhaps the least horny literature― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, November 13, 2017 1:58 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkDon't worry, the fans have filled the gaps.― Simon H., Monday, November 13, 2017 2:40 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkThe exact nature of what's happening remains kinda maddeningly unclear. The two key factors:1) As noted, to what extent is this an extension of the Jackson movie interpretations, with associated backstory (not always Tolkien's).2) What is the estate's involvement, and what rights in question have been sold to what texts?― Ned Raggett, Monday, November 13, 2017 2:43 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ciderpress, Monday, November 13, 2017 1:55 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it is perhaps the least horny literature
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, November 13, 2017 1:58 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Don't worry, the fans have filled the gaps.
― Simon H., Monday, November 13, 2017 2:40 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The exact nature of what's happening remains kinda maddeningly unclear. The two key factors:
1) As noted, to what extent is this an extension of the Jackson movie interpretations, with associated backstory (not always Tolkien's).
2) What is the estate's involvement, and what rights in question have been sold to what texts?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, November 13, 2017 2:43 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Found it:
Amazon today announced it has acquired the global television rights to all The Lord of the Rings fan fiction based on the celebrated fantasy novels by J.R.R. Tolkien, with a multi-season commitment. The upcoming Amazon Prime Original will be produced by Amazon Studios in cooperation with the Tolkien Estate and Trust, HarperCollins, FantasyFuckz.biz, and New Line Cinema, a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment....Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new, sizzling-hot elf-sex storylines preceding J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Fellowship of the Ring. The deal includes potential additional spin-off series.
The Lays of Beleriand indeed!
― bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 02:12 (eight years ago)
Beren & Luthien & Carol & Bob
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 02:15 (eight years ago)
they paid $250m for this o_O― Number None, Monday, November 13, 2017 8:58 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"Legend of the Seeker" would have gone for a song.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:45 (eight years ago)
BATTLEFIELD HAM dekalogy or gtfo
― mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:48 (eight years ago)
oh god no leave him alone he's already dead
― the intentional phallusy (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:50 (eight years ago)
>>Beren & Luthien & Carol & Bob<<
I'd wear it.
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:50 (eight years ago)
this is v surprising news, because christopher tolkien despises jackson's films and has been consistent in his refusal to sell the rights to the silmarillion or any of the "history of middle-earth" stuff. my assumption wd be that "in cooperation with the tolkien estate" is just a nicety/PR formality and this series won't actually be an adaptation of JRRT's non-LOTR stuff. but who knows.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:14 (eight years ago)
I think it's clearly spelling out new stories?
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:20 (eight years ago)
Speaking of "Legend of the Seeker," is Goodkind now pretending he never wrote a 17-book fantasy series? His website only describes him as the writer of two thriller books.
At some unknown time between September of 2016 and April of 2017, Terry Goodkind's official website was scrubbed of all references to the Sword of Truth series, and his Facebook page was made private or removed, potentially signalling that Goodkind may be moving on from his most well-known work.[26]
― jmm, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:20 (eight years ago)
maybe the new stories are stories by by christopher tolkien, at last his creative light will shine
― mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:21 (eight years ago)
fuck you dad, hobbits suck, "in a hole in the sea lived a bobbitt"
― mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:22 (eight years ago)
Oh fp
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:22 (eight years ago)
That goodkind factoid is super weirdThough tbh I️ too have pretended like his fantasies were never published
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:26 (eight years ago)
He may have deleted it, but conservative columnist John Podhoretz had some tweet asking why the Tolkien estate was so greedy to ask so much money
you'd think the conservative ideal of charging whatever price the market would bear would have occurred to him. sheesh.
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:28 (eight years ago)
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:20 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hard pass
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:30 (eight years ago)
Goodkind apparently identifies as an Objectivist according to wiki.Also who is worse: Terry Goodkind or Terry Brooks?
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:35 (eight years ago)
i suspect amazon wd rather come up with new stories set in the same universe than try to adapt a bunch of mostly unfinished myths and narratives from a 12-volume set anyway.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:37 (eight years ago)
if there are no sexy elves in the first episode i'll be very frustrated.
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:38 (eight years ago)
it would be a bummer cause there are dozens of filmable stories from the Tolkien legendarium, in the appendices and the unfinished tales or wherever, that they would just create their own stories with Hobbits or Elves or whatever and call it Lord of the Rings.
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:41 (eight years ago)
ian otm
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:45 (eight years ago)
The Erotic Confessions of the Witch-King of Angmar
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:47 (eight years ago)
imo the whole Tolkien canon is overrated and the films were well-made if overwrought
having a really pulpy tv drama would be a good reflection on it
it should also invert the racism/sexism/perceptions of same in the original work to really piss off the purists
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:50 (eight years ago)
I guess I mean the Lord of the Rings ones, the whole Hobbit thing I kind of paid half-attention to on television and couldn't figure out why this fun reasonable-sized story was burdened by all this crap that was grafted on to it by all the later books
it's about this short dude and his buddies who go on a quest to defeat a dragon, not sure why it needed more than one movie
― mh, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:52 (eight years ago)
^^ hint: it didn't.
― ian, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:56 (eight years ago)
the first hobbit was fine, the other two unwatchable
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 21:58 (eight years ago)
most gripping dishwashing scene since scarface
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 22:01 (eight years ago)
Goodkind worse than brooks bc at least brooks was one of the first to the ripoff post
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 23:13 (eight years ago)
Okay, finally, an explanation as to why this is happening -- not too surprising in the end but here we go:
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2017/11/15/104426-in-historic-move-christopher-tolkien-resigns-as-director-of-tolkien-estate/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:14 (eight years ago)
his successor: azog the defiler
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:16 (eight years ago)
How dare you say that about his sister and his wife. :-D
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:18 (eight years ago)
retiring on those super amazon dollars
― mh, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:05 (eight years ago)
bring on the hobbit sex I guess
― Number None, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:06 (eight years ago)
Christopher Tolkien has been the Dúnadan thanklessly guarding us from gratuitous hobbit sex all these years.
― jmm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:26 (eight years ago)
as much as I think the LOTR movies are great, I wouldn't be averse to someone else doing them as a longer tv series, after some consideration. You could potentially have 12 hour long examinations of each book then and really do them justice but break them up in a way that isn't a horrible slog.
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:45 (eight years ago)
Well it won't be this crew, per the original note.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:15 (eight years ago)
Christopher Tolkien has been mining his dad's notes for flabby bullshit pseudo-scholarly volumes of tedium for decades. Amazon will just be doing a different kind of unnecessary exploitation.
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:52 (eight years ago)
Tsk.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:56 (eight years ago)
i think it's p ungenerous to characterize a guy who dedicated decades of his life to preserving his dad's work (and i doubt any of those books, bar maybe the silmarillion, made much money) as engaging in any kind of "exploitation."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:01 (eight years ago)
obviously i want a full-length douglas gordon version of PJ's hobbit slowed down to two frames a second
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a31q2ZQcETw
― mark s, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:04 (eight years ago)
xp loving suffocation is the correct term iirc
would be amusing if they did unfinished tales and didn't resolve anything, or did a whole year of beren and luthien but restarted it every episode, kept changing the names, and never completing the story
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:08 (eight years ago)
I saw 24 Hour Psycho! well, like, 15 minutes of it. That was cool
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:09 (eight years ago)
"Christopher Tolkien has been mining his dad's notes for flabby bullshit pseudo-scholarly volumes of tedium for decades" that's a bit harsh but it is amusing to look at all those volumes and assume that he thought somewhere someone was really poring over every detail in them at Oxford or something. cuz no one is.
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:10 (eight years ago)
loving suffocation is the correct term iirc
And I own them all! (Even the ones he didn't do, did I mention I got the critical edition of A Secret Vice in the mail the other day and etc.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:19 (eight years ago)
They should use this to explore the magical ring angle a bit more
― treeship: a year in the life (wins), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:31 (eight years ago)
the children of hurin book did pretty well iirc, prob cause that one actually told a story and wasn't just a collection of unfinished ephemera
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:37 (eight years ago)
did anyone here read tolkien's version of beowulf? kept meaning to pick that one up.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:31 (eight years ago)
Recently got it and mean to give it a read -- my understanding is that it was never a formal translation, more of a kind of notes for himself for lectures and for reference.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 November 2017 00:33 (eight years ago)
Neeson is i think the right age for Theoden, he's a solid 10 years older than Bernard Hill was when he filmed his role. though Neeson doesn't look it. i think if you beard him up he'd look the part.
― omar little, Monday, 13 November 2017 19:07 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Literally over the hill
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:08 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And at least twice as big as an underhill
― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:09 (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That were good that
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 December 2017 00:28 (eight years ago)
Help:
“Tears,” Weyman joked. “I’m excited for this plethora of possible pitfalls, errors and failings that young Gandalf can learn from. Literally anything could happen because the only way we’re going to see a wise being later on is if he does some pretty horrendous accidental things and puts his foot in the wrong places and has to pick it up and learn again. So I’m hoping for lots of that kind of action just so that we can see him develop and learn how he gets to be the wizard that we all love.”Vickers continued: “I’m incredibly lucky that Sauron in this time period is very specific to what he does. We get to go through so many exciting beats that I think fans will be really excited to see. I mean, he has made nearly all the rings now, but there’s one more that he (needs) to finish the collection, which he’s determined and has had in his mind for centuries. So, I’m super excited to see him go on the journey and hopefully take over Middle-earth…I’m sure everything will be great for everyone else.”
Vickers continued: “I’m incredibly lucky that Sauron in this time period is very specific to what he does. We get to go through so many exciting beats that I think fans will be really excited to see. I mean, he has made nearly all the rings now, but there’s one more that he (needs) to finish the collection, which he’s determined and has had in his mind for centuries. So, I’m super excited to see him go on the journey and hopefully take over Middle-earth…I’m sure everything will be great for everyone else.”
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 May 2025 00:56 (one year ago)
stoked 4 the badness
― the cruelest moth (cat), Friday, 9 May 2025 17:06 (one year ago)
We get to go through so many exciting beats that I think fans will be really excited to see.
https://media.tenor.com/2bFG2tD8PYAAAAAC/lord-of-the-rings-rings-of-power.gif
― omar little, Friday, 9 May 2025 17:13 (one year ago)
binging this all over christmas, i love it hahaha sorry
― Ste, Thursday, 25 December 2025 13:40 (five months ago)
<3 <3 <3
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 December 2025 17:49 (five months ago)