The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power series

it is perhaps the least horny literature

Don't worry, the fans have filled the gaps.

If New Line Cinema's involved, does that mean that this is an extension of the Jackson movies?

The exact nature of what's happening remains kinda maddeningly unclear. The two key factors:

1) As noted, to what extent is this an extension of the Jackson movie interpretations, with associated backstory (not always Tolkien's).

2) What is the estate's involvement, and what rights in question have been sold to what texts?

The fact that Saul Zaentz's Tolkien Enterprises setup isn't mentioned at all is telling, but I'm not sure of the exact implications.

Boromir often had the horn iirc

this is a very silly idea. the answer to making an LOTR series is certainly not to make it more "adult" in language or sexual content. If they want to make it more like GOT, why not zoom back 1000 years and focus on the wars between the men and Nazgul, focusing on the rise of the Witch King and the Fall of Arnor or something. That could be cool.

What isn't cool: hobbit sex.

they haven't specifically said they're making it more adult tbf

and I'm not sure the Tolkien estate would sign off on something like that

S3, EP2:

Sam has an honest talk with Gollum. Eowyn has a realization about Aragorn. Theoden makes a fateful decision. Merry and Pippin travel south with a new friend.

"The One With the Mathoms"

What isn't cool: hobbit sex.

You say that, but did you know that hobbit women all have thick hair on the top of their breasts? Changes everything.

they haven't specifically said they're making it more adult tbf

― Number None, Monday, November 13, 2017 5:18 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and I'm not sure the Tolkien estate would sign off on something like that

― Number None, Monday, November 13, 2017 5:23 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There was a report a few weeks back that they were going to take a darker, more thrones-like take on the subject matter, but it seems like they are going to go in a different direction.

The goofy happy clown direction.

the elves are immortal so they've all gotten tired of fucking already. they're over it

https://78.media.tumblr.com/2d0ef4d6fd1d28753baa0883b61bb800/tumblr_inline_ngfx0xABE61szmjhd.gif

"When there's a whip there's a way."

"But you're not an orc."

"Context my dear Bilbo."

LotR isn't nearly horny enough source material for prestige tv, they'll have to work on that a bit

― ciderpress, Monday, November 13, 2017 1:55 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it is perhaps the least horny literature

― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Monday, November 13, 2017 1:58 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Don't worry, the fans have filled the gaps.

― Simon H., Monday, November 13, 2017 2:40 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The exact nature of what's happening remains kinda maddeningly unclear. The two key factors:

1) As noted, to what extent is this an extension of the Jackson movie interpretations, with associated backstory (not always Tolkien's).

2) What is the estate's involvement, and what rights in question have been sold to what texts?

― Ned Raggett, Monday, November 13, 2017 2:43 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Found it:

Amazon today announced it has acquired the global television rights to all The Lord of the Rings fan fiction based on the celebrated fantasy novels by J.R.R. Tolkien, with a multi-season commitment. The upcoming Amazon Prime Original will be produced by Amazon Studios in cooperation with the Tolkien Estate and Trust, HarperCollins, FantasyFuckz.biz, and New Line Cinema, a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment....
Set in Middle Earth, the television adaptation will explore new, sizzling-hot elf-sex storylines preceding J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Fellowship of the Ring. The deal includes potential additional spin-off series.

The Lays of Beleriand indeed!

Beren & Luthien & Carol & Bob

they paid $250m for this o_O
― Number None, Monday, November 13, 2017 8:58 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Legend of the Seeker" would have gone for a song.

BATTLEFIELD HAM dekalogy or gtfo

oh god no leave him alone he's already dead

>>Beren & Luthien & Carol & Bob<<

I'd wear it.

this is v surprising news, because christopher tolkien despises jackson's films and has been consistent in his refusal to sell the rights to the silmarillion or any of the "history of middle-earth" stuff. my assumption wd be that "in cooperation with the tolkien estate" is just a nicety/PR formality and this series won't actually be an adaptation of JRRT's non-LOTR stuff. but who knows.

I think it's clearly spelling out new stories?

Speaking of "Legend of the Seeker," is Goodkind now pretending he never wrote a 17-book fantasy series? His website only describes him as the writer of two thriller books.

At some unknown time between September of 2016 and April of 2017, Terry Goodkind's official website was scrubbed of all references to the Sword of Truth series, and his Facebook page was made private or removed, potentially signalling that Goodkind may be moving on from his most well-known work.[26]

maybe the new stories are stories by by christopher tolkien, at last his creative light will shine

fuck you dad, hobbits suck, "in a hole in the sea lived a bobbitt"

Oh fp

That goodkind factoid is super weird
Though tbh I️ too have pretended like his fantasies were never published

He may have deleted it, but conservative columnist John Podhoretz‏ had some tweet asking why the Tolkien estate was so greedy to ask so much money

you'd think the conservative ideal of charging whatever price the market would bear would have occurred to him. sheesh.

I think it's clearly spelling out new stories?

― eeshTrip (darraghmac), Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:20 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hard pass

Goodkind apparently identifies as an Objectivist according to wiki.
Also who is worse: Terry Goodkind or Terry Brooks?

i suspect amazon wd rather come up with new stories set in the same universe than try to adapt a bunch of mostly unfinished myths and narratives from a 12-volume set anyway.

if there are no sexy elves in the first episode i'll be very frustrated.

it would be a bummer cause there are dozens of filmable stories from the Tolkien legendarium, in the appendices and the unfinished tales or wherever, that they would just create their own stories with Hobbits or Elves or whatever and call it Lord of the Rings.

ian otm

The Erotic Confessions of the Witch-King of Angmar

imo the whole Tolkien canon is overrated and the films were well-made if overwrought

having a really pulpy tv drama would be a good reflection on it

it should also invert the racism/sexism/perceptions of same in the original work to really piss off the purists

I guess I mean the Lord of the Rings ones, the whole Hobbit thing I kind of paid half-attention to on television and couldn't figure out why this fun reasonable-sized story was burdened by all this crap that was grafted on to it by all the later books

it's about this short dude and his buddies who go on a quest to defeat a dragon, not sure why it needed more than one movie

^^ hint: it didn't.

the first hobbit was fine, the other two unwatchable

most gripping dishwashing scene since scarface

Goodkind worse than brooks bc at least brooks was one of the first to the ripoff post

Okay, finally, an explanation as to why this is happening -- not too surprising in the end but here we go:

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2017/11/15/104426-in-historic-move-christopher-tolkien-resigns-as-director-of-tolkien-estate/

his successor: azog the defiler

How dare you say that about his sister and his wife. :-D

retiring on those super amazon dollars

bring on the hobbit sex I guess

Christopher Tolkien has been the Dúnadan thanklessly guarding us from gratuitous hobbit sex all these years.

as much as I think the LOTR movies are great, I wouldn't be averse to someone else doing them as a longer tv series, after some consideration. You could potentially have 12 hour long examinations of each book then and really do them justice but break them up in a way that isn't a horrible slog.

Well it won't be this crew, per the original note.

That actually does sound fascinating! I wonder if many things were made different sizes - if something physical has to interact or be interacted with by Frodo and by Aragorn, then it can't be the same thing (okay, okay, or movie magic)

this show really is one of those "hearing, but not listening, looking, but not seeing" situations. it really has copied the aesthetic of the Jackson LOTR pretty well, but it misses so hard on every aspect of the connective tissue or the intangibles. and it shows the importance of casting, just the necessity of having performers who can bring true gravitas and strength to roles which might be ridiculous in the hands of others. you get this level of acting which is very, very '90s basic cable, charisma with the weight of whatever bad wigs are being worn. beyond basically finding Galadriel to be a decent enough performance, there's not much to hold on to. i hate the harfoots and the dwarves completely, the elves suck, the world of men deserves to fall, blah blah. the amazon interview with the future "showrunners" should have ended when JJ Abrams was being used as a job reference.

Not to take away from the badness of this show but I remembered some griping about the use of the word "yestereve" on this thread. I'm (re)reading Unfinished Tales atm and Tolkien uses that word in it, so you can blame that one on him

im calling it: no one has ever used the word "yester-eve" outside poorly written fiction

― mark s, Friday, 7 October 2022 19:45 (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

what if unfinished is just another word for poorly written 😃

Oh dear

are we talking about the war of the rohirrim anime anywhere?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCUg6Td5fgQ

here's my trailer liveblog:

ugh, more lotr.
oooh, anime?
oh, ugly anime.
elephant thing like what presidetn ornaldo bloomps took down hardcore!!
pfft, rebellious ginger warrior chick trope.
again with the ring?! quit with the ring already!

so to sum up, 💩 💤

In imax? It struggles to look good on a phone.

i didn't even twig it was in imax, that's so silly. "pls plonk down $10 extra to see the cartoon details bigger"

We'd sorta mentioned the anime on a general LOTR thread. It has nothing to do with the series and is in line -- as they're more than happy to remind you -- with the Jackson movies instead.

Yay, hooray, I'm so thrilled. (I am not thrilled, about any of it.)

https://gizmodo.com/lord-of-the-rings-rings-of-power-season-3-sauron-war-elves-2000563559

my guy freakin loved this series

fixed a lot of the problems the movies had, he says

the characters have so much more depth, he says

so it sounds like u all r wrong. sorry everybody!

Why I didn't realize Jeff Bezos was your guy.

jeff who, i just found these episodes lying here

Help:

“Tears,” Weyman joked. “I’m excited for this plethora of possible pitfalls, errors and failings that young Gandalf can learn from. Literally anything could happen because the only way we’re going to see a wise being later on is if he does some pretty horrendous accidental things and puts his foot in the wrong places and has to pick it up and learn again. So I’m hoping for lots of that kind of action just so that we can see him develop and learn how he gets to be the wizard that we all love.”

Vickers continued: “I’m incredibly lucky that Sauron in this time period is very specific to what he does. We get to go through so many exciting beats that I think fans will be really excited to see. I mean, he has made nearly all the rings now, but there’s one more that he (needs) to finish the collection, which he’s determined and has had in his mind for centuries. So, I’m super excited to see him go on the journey and hopefully take over Middle-earth…I’m sure everything will be great for everyone else.”

stoked 4 the badness

We get to go through so many exciting beats that I think fans will be really excited to see.

https://media.tenor.com/2bFG2tD8PYAAAAAC/lord-of-the-rings-rings-of-power.gif

binging this all over christmas, i love it hahaha sorry

<3 <3 <3