brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

that last point has felt like the blaring subtext here right from the start

Well yeah the front pages of the Sun/Express/Mail would have been screaming for it for a year now. As it stands it has relatively little publicity until Boris waded in.

Has anything decent and authoritative been written on what Iran is looking to gain from this?

I don't think BJ could be trusted not to exacerbate the situation further at this point. Seeing as wherever he goes outside the UK, he consistently pisses lots of people off with his wilful rudeness and imperial arrogance. And if their state media were going to invent a crude caricature of "Western Imperial arrogance" it couldn't be any less like Boris, and he is incapable of acting any other way.

As to what Iran gets out of it... well, the uk is enough of a proxy for the usa, and has historically loomed large enough (Mossadegh coup for example) that there's propaganda value for Iran in clowning it- and as these dats it has no independent clout in the region, britain can be dunked on with impunity

this article, from feb 2016, a few months before zaghari-ratcliffe's arrest, about a different jailed BBC journalist, provides some good context

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/03/iran-former-bbc-journalist-arrested-foreign-minister-zarif-uk-visit

and this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-41750919

Iranian hardliners think of Britain as “the old fox” – cunning and sly.

they must be getting some completely misleading reports from their MoI.

My Uncle Napoleon

Though the book and the TV series were briefly banned following the Islamic revolution of 1979 in Iran, it remained popular (Nafisi 2006) and is often regarded as "the most important and well-loved work of Iranian fiction since World War II" (Ryan 2006). It is noted for its lampooning of the widespread Iranian belief that the English are responsible for events that occur in Iran.

BBC News 24 has renamed the Brexit Minister Davis Davis, which I prefer.

Panto season officially afoot.

BREAKING Britain will leave the EU without a deal if MPs vote down final deal, David Davis said. MPs in the House of Commons audibly gasped.

— Christopher Hope 📝 (@christopherhope) November 13, 2017

blackmailing your own parliament, well played brexiters, well played

based on what I know about the implications of "no deal" this seems...quite bad?

nothing is bad, everything is permitted

so the choice is either the freefall nightmare of no deal, or accept whatever mess this bunch of incompetent clowns can bodge together in the next 16 months? nice fucking work guys

i'm finding the starkness of that choice actually quite terrifying to think about

A lot can happen in a week, never mind 16 months.

Things might even get worse.

Theresa May has launched her strongest attack on Russia yet, accusing Moscow of meddling in elections and carrying out cyber espionage.

Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson is due to visit Russia next month.

https://i.imgur.com/TI4TCvn.gif

Have we ever even checked Noel Edmonds position on brexit?

Trying to think of a swap shop gag but it's two in the morning.

Farage pushing Fidesz-style Soros conspiracies seems ominous

@Nigel_Farage
44m44 minutes ago

George Soros has spent billions in the EU to undermine the nation state. This is where the real international political collusion is.

this sounds like a right laugh:

The Commons public accounts committee published a report at 9am today saying that HM Revenue and Customs does not have proper funding yet to upgrade its customs systems in time for Brexit. It says that if the UK leaves the EU without proper customs infrastracture, the results will be “catastrophic”.

Here is an extract from its summary.

"Under current plans, the UK is set to leave the European single market and the customs union in March 2019. It would be catastrophic if HM Revenue & Customs’ new customs system, the customs declaration service, is not ready in time and if there is no viable fall-back option.

"In 2015, around 55 million customs declarations were made by 141,000 traders. The UK’s exit from the EU could see the number of customs declarations which HMRC must process each year increase five-fold to 255m. A failed customs system could therefore lead to huge disruption for businesses, with delays potentially causing massive queues at Dover and resulting in food being left to rot in trucks at the border."

Farage pushing Fidesz-style Soros conspiracies seems ominous

He has no fucking ideas at all. Imagine being this...unimaginative.

I can't imagine that.

Have we ever even checked Noel Edmonds position on brexit?

I could guess.

Is he going for deal or no deal?

Noel Edmonds was crankily tweeting "am I alone in thinking Britain is full?'" because he got caught in a traffic jam on the M1 or wherever. I think we can safely guess.

He also had that weird tv prog that was either about "rip-off Britain" or how sharia law was stealing the nuts from the bird-feeder at the bottom of his garden, his eyes are at least 80% swivel

Aye, he's made from Farage/Icke DNA. And he writes silly shit on his hands and has an imaginary id manifestation friend that follows him around.

he's the biggest cunt on god's earth, pretty sure he'll be a Brexiteer

can't be the biggest, he's only 5'6" or something

he packs a lot of cunt into that tiny frame

pretty sure he'll be a Brexiteer

I believe he fell out with Blobby over it.

I never did get to swap my Starbird for a nunchaku, the fucking tosser.

lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/HaCGRxArACAWQ/giphy.gif

lol never mind

BLOBY IS BALLS DEEP IN COLLUSION

Looking forward to a post brexit revival of swap shop as our economy turns to shit soup, cheggers doing the deals from the back of a truck full of rotting turnips stranded somewhere on the M20

two lols

hahaha

IT WAS A DEAL OR NO DEAL

oh forget it

we're going to be hearing a lot of that i reckon, best to get it out there

Farage: projection, as with all RWNJs citing Siri’s. Let’s not forget he’a a ‘person of interest’ in the US Election investigations.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f1/d7/ba/f1d7ba56ca3fa11bbd2ff74c0034e184--noel-edmonds-cosmos.jpg

l-r Michael Gove, Noel Edmonds, Boris Johnson

Frank Field is arguing in the House of Commons that we should leave the European Union on our time -ie midnight GMT not CET, one hour before

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) November 14, 2017

Top: Frank Field MP facing down interventions from Labour colleagues (2017)

Bottom: The Death of Caesar, Karl von Piloty (1865)

(h/t @DenisDoherty) pic.twitter.com/LbT0B69g9O

— Joey D'Urso (@josephmdurso) November 14, 2017

Some people turn dickishness into fine art.

foul old wraith next to Blairite, was him next to Nicky Morgan the other day.

I meant to say old 19th century Whig wraith next to a Blairite, but stuff happened.

Thread delivering today.

Wonder if frank field hides the grandkids' Xmas presents until a realistic time in the morning allowing for the santa timezone jetlag curve and the kink in the equator in West Africa that NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT