US Politics November 2017

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"dating"

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 November 2017 13:56 (eight years ago)

The Gateway Pundit is breaking the story that one of the accusers is a multiple divorcee with a history of bankruptcy filings.

JoeStork, Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:06 (eight years ago)

Like Trump?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:10 (eight years ago)

"The Gateway Pundit is breaking the story that one of the accusers is a multiple divorcee with a history of bankruptcy filings."

what a whore! let's run her out of town

akm, Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:13 (eight years ago)

No, not at all, totally different. The next headline is "China Visit: Trump Praised as 'UNCLE TRUMP'"

JoeStork, Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:16 (eight years ago)

lemon squeezy easy peasy

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:20 (eight years ago)

what a revelation! a woman abused as a young teen has trouble with her relationships with men in later life. stop the presses!

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 11 November 2017 18:55 (eight years ago)

missed this NYT story yesterday:

WASHINGTON — Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, acknowledged on Friday that the Republican tax plan might result in a tax hike for some working Americans, saying he “misspoke” days earlier when he said that “nobody in the middle class is going to get a tax increase” under the Senate bill.

“I misspoke on that,” Mr. McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, said in an interview on Friday with The New York Times. “You can’t guarantee that absolutely no one sees a tax increase, but what we are doing is targeting levels of income and looking at the average in those levels and the average will be tax relief for the average taxpayer in each of those segments.”

such inspiring rhetoric! sure to mobilize support for the plan.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 11 November 2017 20:26 (eight years ago)

Getting a little worried they'll actually delay the AL election.

JoeStork, Saturday, 11 November 2017 20:39 (eight years ago)

From a spokesman for Alabama's governor: "Governor Ivey is not considering and has no plans to move the special election for U.S. Senate."

— Alan Blinder (@alanblinder) November 11, 2017

This probably means that they still think they can win

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Saturday, 11 November 2017 20:58 (eight years ago)

It probably means that she's aware that doing so would likely end her career and embroil the state in even further corruption-related scandals + lawsuits

Οὖτις, Saturday, 11 November 2017 21:01 (eight years ago)

Yeah. I think postponing the election was a desperate trial balloon that survived only for an hour or two before being shot down in flames. They'll just have to cross their fingers and go on with it. They've got no good options now. Perhaps they'll refuse to seat him, if that means Ivey gets to name his replacement.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 11 November 2017 21:08 (eight years ago)

idg how the majority leader can refuse to seat an elected Senator, what grounds is that based on.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 11 November 2017 21:12 (eight years ago)

As a law-making body, the Senate has very wide latitude to make its own rules, so long as they don't conflict with constitutional dictates. It was always meant to be a bastion of the privileged, insulated from the crasser demands of politics. Keeping the riff-raff out is exactly the sort of thing the framers envisioned. Blackballing Moore would be a political bombshell, but not a constitutional crisis.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 11 November 2017 21:21 (eight years ago)

Make no mistake, Kay Ivey is a craven Republican Alabama governor, but she has at no point expressed any support for Roy Moore and has stated she believes his accusers. There's just no way she can publicly support Doug Jones and expect to be elected when the time comes (I would say re-elected, but she actually stepped into the role when Bentley resigned).

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 11 November 2017 21:26 (eight years ago)

Article 1, Section Five, Clause 1:

"Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members..."

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 11 November 2017 21:27 (eight years ago)

the supreme court has ruled that congress has to seat elected members who meet the qualifications listed in the constitution. they can't refuse to seat them for corruption, etc.:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_v._McCormack

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 11 November 2017 21:41 (eight years ago)

Ah! Good to know. Apparently, under that ruling the only way to exercise the power to 'judge of qualifications' would be to seat Moore first, then expel him upon a 2/3rds vote of the Senate. Not a likely scenario, but then, every choice the republicans are faced with if Moore wins will be pretty ugly.

It's worth remembering that Moore is fully backed by Bannon / Breitbart, and expelling him would only escalate the internal war in the party to fiercer heights.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 11 November 2017 21:58 (eight years ago)

the mask is off

I'd be fine with a child predator in the Senate so long as it would keep the Democrats from stealing this seat. Child molesters are evil, Democrats are even worse

— Eric Dondero R. (@EricDonderoR) November 11, 2017

sleeve, Sunday, 12 November 2017 00:29 (eight years ago)

(dude is a Rand Paul staff member)

sleeve, Sunday, 12 November 2017 00:30 (eight years ago)

I'd be fine with a child predator in the Senate

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/012/Screen_Shot_2015-05-12_at_3.31.31_PM.png

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 12 November 2017 00:32 (eight years ago)

Classic GOP

Οὖτις, Sunday, 12 November 2017 00:43 (eight years ago)

Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me "old," when I would NEVER call him "short and fat?" Oh well, I try so hard to be his friend - and maybe someday that will happen!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 12, 2017

What the fuck

frogbs, Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:01 (eight years ago)

Donald's playful side emerges. Just as screwed up as his serious side.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:02 (eight years ago)

...............

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:04 (eight years ago)

it's been nice knowing all of you but i suppose i should probably log off now and start putting my affairs in order

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:05 (eight years ago)

i bet he brags about his tweets when he discusses north korea with the other leaders in the region

Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:15 (eight years ago)

xps sorry, ex-Paul staffer

sleeve, Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:19 (eight years ago)

I would NEVER call him "short and fat"
I would NEVER call him "short and fat"
I would NEVER call him "short and fat"
I would NEVER call him "short and fat"
I would NEVER call him "short and fat"
I would NEVER call him "short and fat"

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:20 (eight years ago)

when I read that trump tweet on twitter I had to do that thing where you check to make sure it's not some parody account

iatee, Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:30 (eight years ago)

Trump is flexing his superiority as a tall and fat person

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:42 (eight years ago)

it is the age of stoopid Roman empire reenactors

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:52 (eight years ago)

Like okay, Donald, you understandably hate yourself and you want to die. There are much simpler solutions to this problem that I'd encourage you to investigate.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Sunday, 12 November 2017 02:44 (eight years ago)

Never saw this one:

Lightweight reporter Alex Pareene @pareene is known as a total joke in political circles. Hence, he writes for Loser Salon. @Salon

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 15, 2012

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Sunday, 12 November 2017 08:50 (eight years ago)

I know this thread is not the Donald J Trump Twitter Archive, but he's having a banner day.

Does the Fake News Media remember when Crooked Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State, was begging Russia to be our friend with the misspelled reset button? Obama tried also, but he had zero chemistry with Putin.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 12, 2017

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 12 November 2017 09:38 (eight years ago)

I mean, obviously we can agree that misspelling things is important, right?

When will all the haters and fools out there realize that having a good relationship with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. There always playing politics - bad for our country. I want to solve North Korea, Syria, Ukraine, terrorism, and Russia can greatly help!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 12, 2017

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 12 November 2017 09:41 (eight years ago)

Not as rad as the one where he promised ppl would die if we made Russia sad and listened to fake dem stuff.

correlated noise of conformity (Hunt3r), Sunday, 12 November 2017 14:59 (eight years ago)

Obama and Putin had no chemistry. I didn't buy that they were gonna wind up together at all!

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:11 (eight years ago)

Never heard about the 'misspelled reset button' thing until today. But Trump tweeted "Phillipines" earlier so all even I guess.

nashwan, Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:31 (eight years ago)

One of the things I find most gut-wrenching about Trump's casually nihilistic tweeting is that it may actually be that other rando choad with Trump's Twitter password who finally forces NK's hand.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:45 (eight years ago)

Is there even a way to keep track of who's tweeting anymore?

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:46 (eight years ago)

New Alabama poll: Doug Jones 46%, Roy Moore 42%. First poll to show Jones in the lead. https://t.co/HVJlVUjucf

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 12, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 12 November 2017 16:32 (eight years ago)

I still don’t think Jones has a shot but I’m all for it

frogbs, Sunday, 12 November 2017 16:41 (eight years ago)

Its crazy that there is *any* poll showing him ahead

Οὖτις, Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:02 (eight years ago)

First he came for the Muslims, and I was silent. Then he came for the gays and lesbians, and I was silent. Then he came for the teenage white girls, and I was like, well, I don't know about that.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:14 (eight years ago)

Heh

Οὖτις, Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:40 (eight years ago)

Its crazy that there is *any* poll showing him ahead

You forget that Roy Moore is not a generic Republican; he's a uniquely hateable piece of shit who's been bringing negative attention to Alabama for something like 30 years. There are plenty of people down there who hate his guts. The maniacs got him past the finish line in the primary, because it's a Republican primary in Alabama, but he's actually a really bad general election candidate. He got blown out in the primaries in two gubernatorial elections, was removed from the Alabama Supreme Court because of the whole "Ten Commandments monument" thing, and was removed again for continuing to enforce a ban on same-sex marriage. Also, he's in trouble for stealing from his charity.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 12 November 2017 18:14 (eight years ago)

I know his history. The fact is even w all that, until last weekend he was comfortably ahead.

Οὖτις, Sunday, 12 November 2017 18:16 (eight years ago)

have we taken a look at realclearpolitics aggregate polls

https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html

https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2017/nov/08/whats-happened-to-trumps-popularity-since-the-election-not-much

i n f i n i t y (∞), Sunday, 12 November 2017 18:33 (eight years ago)

These polls are all fucking stupid. They couldn't even predict last week's groundswell VA elections right. Fuck Trump support, who gives a shit.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 November 2017 18:45 (eight years ago)


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