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I think the extent to which youth has been corrupted is also exaggerated. Youth with no previous interest in cricket HAS been corrupted, which is a good thing. Gateway drug and all that. Not all will make the leap, but some is enough.

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 13:44 (seventeen years ago)

OK, I had to watch danica patrick get a milky top lip and bang on about how chocolate milk was good for you but still free cycling, not even paid for cricket.

Prince of Persia (Ed), Thursday, 14 May 2009 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

OK, so I was wrong TMS is available worldwide via the website, but only for home games, which for now is fine.

Prince of Persia (Ed), Thursday, 14 May 2009 13:53 (seventeen years ago)

Certainly hope so. I just worried that the powers that be are so concentrated on making cricket EXCITING that they forget that sometimes the opposite of boring can also be 'interesting'.

You mean like they do with television news?

Genie... bottle... bottle... genie... I fear

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 13:54 (seventeen years ago)

I think the extent to which youth has been corrupted is also exaggerated. Youth with no previous interest in cricket HAS been corrupted, which is a good thing. Gateway drug and all that. Not all will make the leap, but some is enough.

Absolutely. All the youths that I know who have even a passing interest in cricket completely prefer Test to Twenty20 (which is curiously boring unless it's one of those infrequent thrillers). I just think that cricket administrators have had their minds so addled by marketing concepts that they think that the reason people aren't going to cricket is because it's not modern and flash enough. Whereas actually most people I know find that is in fact a very good reason to go to the cricket.

Genie... bottle... bottle... genie... I fear.

Same here.

The Fairy Josser (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 14 May 2009 13:56 (seventeen years ago)

You go to cricket in order to spend a day drinkin' and chillin' in the sun while a sporting drama slowly plays itself out in the surreally distant, almost incidental background

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

I could phrase that even more poetically but you know what I mean etc etc.

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

the thwack of leather on willow, the spew of the drunken spectator

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:09 (seventeen years ago)

The crackle of plastic pint glasses underfoot

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:15 (seventeen years ago)

xposts

Twenty20 is boring for the same reason that one day games are boring - you are reducing cricket down to a batting game; bowling (or at least taking wickets) is not important in this form of the game, if you can simply contain your opponent's batting attack. In Test cricket you can't win unless you take all 20 wickets, so there is a wonderful balance at the heart of the game between needing to score runs and needing to defend your wicket. The narrative develops organically around that.

Obviously preaching to the converted, but that is basically why one day stuff has died a slow death and why Twenty20 may well go the same way. The danger is that the administrators will gut Test cricket chasing Twenty20 profits and then end up losing both because there won't be any players who want to play Test matches and no one paying to see Twenty20. Hopefully that is an extreme scenario...

ears are wounds, Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:15 (seventeen years ago)

Doesn't really matter what we think does it? It's up Indian media moguls now.

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:17 (seventeen years ago)

Also, while I know exactly why people talk about slower, gentler tempo of test matches xp, when you know a bit about cricket that ceases to be true and there's actually far more going on in a test and it becomes somehow faster. To my eyes nothing happens at all in the middle part of a one-day innings because all the subtler activity - field placings, the pitch, strategy of a bowler on a long stretch, etc - has been removed because it's not "exciting"

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:27 (seventeen years ago)

Agree with that totally Ismael, well put.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 14 May 2009 14:36 (seventeen years ago)

There is absolutely nothing happening in this Test, however.

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:18 (seventeen years ago)

its early days.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

test matches shouldn't be over in 2/3 days

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

Judging by things thus far this one won't be over in 8 days though.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:23 (seventeen years ago)

Bring on the dancing girls...

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

Bring on the dancing girls horses...

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:31 (seventeen years ago)

and there's actually far more going on in a test and it becomes somehow faster.

This is true. Although there are slow periods of play, but these are interesting because you sense the teams battling for momentum, often testing each other's patience.

I was sitting next to a chap once at Lord's who had this knack of snoozing off and then waking up just when things were about to happen, then drifting off again. Must have watched so much cricket he was psychically linked to the tempo of the game.

The Fairy Josser (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 14 May 2009 15:49 (seventeen years ago)

Cook gets his century.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:04 (seventeen years ago)

lol nervous nineties

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:08 (seventeen years ago)

ravi just went 4-6-4(nearly c&b) who said nothing was happening?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:09 (seventeen years ago)

dude, nothing the fuck is happening, the pitch is fucking RIP, the batsmen are filling their boots, the bowlers are completely uninspired

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:11 (seventeen years ago)

100 for ravi, 3rd in a row against the windies

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:11 (seventeen years ago)

Ravis is either gonna smash another 50 tonight or get out to a stupid shot.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:12 (seventeen years ago)

England should have bowled first, would have at least given the game a modicum of excitement

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

Who'd be a bowler these days?

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

...and we might have learned something

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

bowling first would've been stupid and would've rightly have been criticised. England can(hopefully)put up a big score and put pressure on the WI and see how the pitch changes the last 3 days.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:22 (seventeen years ago)

but what's the point in doing that?

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:29 (seventeen years ago)

It'll really annoy Chris Gayle

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:29 (seventeen years ago)

the point is you try to win the test match and win the series 2-0. Not fart about with nonsensical experiments just "to see what happens". Thank fuck youre neither an england captain/coach.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:33 (seventeen years ago)

It's not an experiment! It's bowling first. And it's probably the best way to ensure an England win rather than a draw.

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:37 (seventeen years ago)

by watching the windies rattle up 500 on an "RIP pitch"

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:39 (seventeen years ago)

a mentally-shot WI against a hungry England bowling attack? no chance.

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:40 (seventeen years ago)

it's not a good pitch but the WI aren't exactly trying to get much life out of it

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

basically i want our bowlers to be genuinely challenged coz that's where the ashes is being lost & won

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:41 (seventeen years ago)

Bopara out. Here's KP who needs a score.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

nope, it's jimmy as nighwatchmen to protect KP. Can he keep his run going etc.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:52 (seventeen years ago)

should do on this pitch

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

;-)

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:54 (seventeen years ago)

fidel is now flying

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:57 (seventeen years ago)

jimmy edges and it drops short of the keeper. edwards is making the pitch look wild now

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 14 May 2009 16:58 (seventeen years ago)

and there we go

sorry for british (country matters), Thursday, 14 May 2009 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

You two are the Boycott and Agnew of ILX.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 15 May 2009 08:53 (seventeen years ago)

looks like no play today

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 May 2009 10:47 (seventeen years ago)

You two are the Boycott and Agnew of ILX.

Jaggers and Pfunkboycs

Dante ... Bruno . Vico .. Passantino (Tom D.), Friday, 15 May 2009 10:49 (seventeen years ago)

tom d is much more boycottesque

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 15 May 2009 11:12 (seventeen years ago)

Is Boycott too stubborn to admit that he's dead already?

Everybody Wants To Shag King Boy Pato (King Boy Pato), Friday, 15 May 2009 11:16 (seventeen years ago)


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