Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

but what about the early funny ones, VHS?

ilxor soundbites on Morning Edition

i (and many other women) have been expressing this thought only to be told that we are overreacting or not appreciating fine art in the right way

i remember clearly being grossed out and disappointed by Steve Martin's Shopgirl and most of my friends were like geez stfu already it's not that bad iirc

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:05 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm!! Like almost all of literature ever. Oh it's about the human condition? Yes as seen by a man, in relation to other men.

Just read the wiki about "Shopgirl",

I mean, all of it...... uh..

But this:

While on tour, the band's lead singer introduces Jeremy to the world of self-improvement and how to better relate to the opposite sex.

.. uh, what?

take this pill

It is just so much safer not to ever admire anyone ever

― piezoelectric landlord (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, November 9, 2017 9:44 PM (forty-one minutes ago)

sad but true

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 22:27 (yesterday) Permalink

if only it were possible to admire a woman

florence nightingale

andy zaltzman to thread

wait what

this is literally the last thread on ilx you should be posting '[male comedian] to thread' to in the service of a quip

I think that's a reference to the Florence Nightingale Hottie from History running joke on the Bugle. Not a thread to drop names in randomly imo

My heroes lately are all women.

Mariah Carey?

https://www.facebook.com/EllenPage/posts/10155212835577449

^^^ this is a great read

wow

she is fantastic

homegirl represent!!!!

yeah, that’s powerful stuff

I Love You, Daddy release cancelled by distributor: https://pitchfork.com/news/louis-cks-i-love-you-daddy-film-release-canceled/?mbid=homepage-more-latest-and-video

Sounded like an awful idea

Pennies keep a'dropping

http://deadline.com/2017/11/anthony-edwards-sexual-molestation-gary-goddard-1202205839/

Jann Wenner now too

Ellen Page has me choked up at my desk. just pure admiration.

upsetting Misty Upham news I hadn't read before in that EP post. (If you saw the film of August: Osage County, she was the Native actor.)

damn

Ellen Page post is straight fire.

although to leave Bill Clinton out of her rage seems odd

Exhausting but thorough, when the day’s news needs a timeline like this: https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-bbc-pulling-mystery-thriller-featuring-westwick-145613448.html

although to leave Bill Clinton out of her rage seems odd

― Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Friday, November 10, 2017

YES WHAT ABOUT THE CLINTONS

i am very much hoping that the jeffrey tambor story is a false flag

When I saw the Anthony Edwards url I cringed (don't know who Gary whatever is) but thankfully not the case.

Gary whoever was also accused in that Bryan Singer lawsuit (then dropped) a few years back.

It is pretty bad (massive understatement here) when you steel yourself to read one of those stories and come out the other side going "phew, he's the one who was abused"

didn't realize the upcoming Queen/Mercury biopic was directed by Singer

(or that it was in postproduction)

the misty upham story in that ellen page post is so disturbing to my soul, even in the context of all these other disturbing stories

It is pretty bad (massive understatement here) when you steel yourself to read one of those stories and come out the other side going "phew, he's the one who was abused"

― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP)

Yeah, I had to think about my phrasing for a few seconds ("thank god Anthony was abused").

finally read the latest ronan farrow new yorker thing and holy shit

trying to think which hollywood man I'd be surprised to learn such things about. Clooney has a pretty squeaky image I guess. Spielberg. That's probably it.

uh, George Takei

^ just saw that. Bad Sulu.

for real? if so, that's wild because he basically admitted as much when he was sitting in on Howard Stern back in early October, the very first show after the Weinstein story happened. Howard jokingly asked if George had ever been inappropriate with men or forceful, and there was a long pause, and he just said "um...." they were laughing, Howard asked him to describe what he meant, George said something like "well, you know, sometimes people who may be young, or uncomfortable or scared, they may need some... coercing or, encouragement, uh...." another long pause. then Howard goes "do we need to call the police?"

How long til they cancel the Oscars? I mean surely..

A friend on the Takei accusation: "He is describing half the pick ups and going home from bars in gay history."

I don't know that I agree, but there are more dubious factors in this one than in most of the incidents heretofore described.

(witchfinder general descends on Dr Morbius' lab)

What dubious factors?

I've said enough.

I'm appreciating the posts from Our Gays here a lot because I've been wondering what is the place of sexual "deviancy" after our current moment. I know of abusers in my profession who've characterized their behavior as deviancy: swinging, partner swapping, three+somes, etc. Participants have responded that the abuser coerced them into these activities: the consent was very gray, both because of significant power differentials and because of deviancy.

I wonder about the practicality of engaging in "deviant" behavior while having the kind of enthusiastic consent that's idealized as responses to coercion.

I tend to think of people on the Left as friends of deviancy in some very vague sense, and in our moment people on the Left are also friends of a pretty firm morality: enthusiastic consent is a marker of a principle of "don't harm others". But I'm thinking about how the avoidance of harm can be assured in the midst of "deviancy", and if it can't be assured, what place is there for "deviancy" in a Leftist culture?

some lefties are most definitely the New Puritans.

consent is a marker of a principle of "don't harm others". But I'm thinking about how the avoidance of harm can be assured in the midst of "deviancy"

Where there is the risk of harm, then the consenter, if they are above the age of consent, is consenting to that risk. Where there is mutuality, responsibility is not confined to either partner.

We need to talk about @SwetShopBoys.
About them being held up as examples of progressive South Asian men.
They benefit from the uplift of a whole diasporic community.
Riz & Himanshu are you sure all of your behaviour in the past has been acceptable?

— Kindness (@Kindness) November 10, 2017