Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

David Lynch would not surprise me sadly

xp he did the Fat Albert thing when he got off iirc

phrasing

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...he did the Fat Albert thing when he got off...

Posts taken out of context...

lads

Louis CK has done lots of stuff that I've found very funny and entertaining, but none of it would cause me to doubt the possibility that he may be a colossal asshole.

I'm not comfortable with the elision of "sexual abuser" in favor of "asshole"

fair enough

Every sexual abuser is an asshole, not every asshole is a sexual abuser.

Agree

Crut otm

Exclusive: 5 women tell NYT that Louis C.K. crossed a line into sexual misconduct https://t.co/GYl09W0uW2

— The New York Times (@nytimes) November 9, 2017

welp

there it goes

What an asshole.

“I think the line gets crossed when you take all your clothes off and start masturbating,” Ms. Wolov said.

jesus

i wasn't trying to "demote" him to asshole, in case that wasn't clear

what's with all the masturbators

Obviously the victims are foremost in my mind, but having seen the movie, I can't help but feel bad for Charlie Day, the one tasked with mimicking masturbation repeatedly in the movie

Power, no interest whatsoever in pleasing or turning on the other person xp

so I guess the female comedy duo from the Gawker piece wasn't Garfunkel and Oates after all

I feel like what's going to happen is CK apologizes profusely and claims he has some sort of diagnosed impulse control issue

Yet in an interview with The Times in September at the Toronto film festival, where “I Love You, Daddy,” was shown, Louis C.K. dismissed stories of his alleged sexual misconduct as “rumors,” and said the notion that the masturbation scenes referred to them never occurred to him. “It’s funny, I didn’t think of that, ” he said.

See this is exactly what I'm talking about. He gets off on it.

xp Simon- so, p much exactly what Weinstein & Spacey did?

yeah, that's been the common reaction, but I'm cautiously optimistic that people just aren't buying it anymore

i wasn't trying to "demote" him to asshole, in case that wasn't clear

nor was I, these are some pretty fucked up stories. good to see that it's getting a swift reaction.

Were they ever buying it? Shit has changed so much in the last month.

the whole "sex rehab" thing for this stuff is a punchline, nobody is defending Weinstein or Spacey or any of the other dozens of predatory men, Louis is finished

I think those kinds of excuses carried more weight previous to the Weinstein episode

well, Gay Talese defended Spacey, but i take yr point

xp

For someone as allegedly candid as he is, Louis' ongoing unwillingness to discuss (much less admit or apologize for) any of this is especially galling.

what IS 'sex rehab' -- you watch other men take their clothes off and note your disgust?

this one hits hard for me tbh; Louis had done such a good job of thriving outside the corporate system and has so consistently produced funny or at least consistently interesting work. So much of his persona (including the regular, clearly personally written emails to his list) is about connecting with you as a genuine person; it's just depressing that this is the payoff.
i just watched the most recent season of one mississippi which is very much about Louis in a pretty unveiled way; kinda prepared me for this to be on the way. really sucks that this immensely shitty behavior on his part torpedoed several womens' careers and looks set to destroy him too.

what IS 'sex rehab' -- you watch other men take their clothes off and note your disgust?

I feel like what's going to happen is CK apologizes profusely and claims he has some sort of diagnosed impulse control issue

Probably. Thinking of that weird anecdote in his old Marc Maron interview where he talks about spending all his money on a trumpet and then, well, jerking off on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5I-tUoBoSo

he probably DOES have some diagnosed impulse control issue but it's not like that absolves him of repeated really shitty behavior

NEW: Hotelier André Balazs sexually assaulted actress Amanda Anka. She and her husband Jason Bateman have gone on-record with NYT about the incident. https://t.co/5U7hSmInHg

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) November 9, 2017

Oh totally

xp

His relationship to women has always been the worst part of his work

yes, and because i happen to be a woman, i can't just look past it. he is a selfish man who thinks shitty thoughts about people like me. just like woody allen, who i have also never liked. who apparently he wants to pay homage to in his ghastly-sounding got-the-plug-pulled-on-it new movie

philip roth too
i have no love for this type of man artist

has philip roth been accused of anything?

no he was mentioned as an example of man artists who have questionable ideas about women, upthread somewhere

i wonder if NYC MoMA will consider holding the screening of LCK's film I posted above as scheduled, and having a discussion of these issues afterward.

not a chance in hell i think

yeah, i would say his contenders screening will be pulled before the weekend if not sooner

not to turn this thread into a referendum on philip roth but i think that description maybe does his work a disservice

Since Charlie Chaplin married/impregnated 3 women before they were 18, can we impute "questionable ideas about women" to him? i'm not trying to be provocative, i want to know where the reasonable grounds are.

fwiw I think valuable art still can be made by deeply flawed/lousy people.

of course it can but arguing that point the same hour the story breaks misses the point entirely

yuck. im fine w ignoring Louis. don't care how good of an artist you are or how much you are fighting the man or whatever. im not gonna support that kind of behavior. his "art" was seemingly about vulnerability and honest self-examination yet this entire situation is the opposite of that. he's just coming across as a massive hack.

funny how the NYT broke just as we were discussing Louis, weird

I do feel bad for Charlie Day :(

Feel worse for the women Louis messed with, obviously

funny how the NYT broke just as we were discussing Louis, weird

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we were discussing him cos his premiere got pulled cos it was about to break