US Politics November 2017

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Build social housing on every golf course

.oO (silby), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:30 (eight years ago)

god, that Johnstown article

“We’ve been trying to reach out to him to say, ‘Hey, remember us? We need help here,’” he told me. “That’s my only frustration. I’d just like to tell Trump, ‘Hello? We’re still here. We’re ready for you.’”

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:31 (eight years ago)

imo golf courses should be changed to a mixture of public parks/social housing and natural grassland prairie

put some buffalo in your back yard, it's good

mh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:32 (eight years ago)

I mean the level of cognitive dissonance on display is just depressing, you point out how Trump hasn't done jack shit to help nor made good on any of his campaign promises and you just get this

“But I like him,” Frear reiterated. “Because he does what he says.”

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:33 (eight years ago)

I'm so tired of stories about die-hard Trump voters. Who gives a shit? You want a minority, there's your minority. The shittiest, stupidest minority.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:34 (eight years ago)

Trump should compromise and get them more coal jobs and more opioids.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:35 (eight years ago)

what sports are going to be left for these guys to watch at the end of this? hockey? lacrosse?

iatee, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:36 (eight years ago)

still waiting for the longform pieces about the people who did not vote for Trump but I won't hold my breath

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:37 (eight years ago)

These idiots are the forgotten people for a reason.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:37 (eight years ago)

"Shame on them,” Del Signore said over his alfredo. “These clowns are out there, making millions of dollars a year, and they’re using some stupid excuse that they want equality—so I’ll kneel against the flag and the national anthem?”

“You’re not a fan of equality?” I asked.

“For people who deserve it and earn it,” he said. “All my ancestors, Italian, 100-percent Italian, the Irish, Germans, Polish, whatever—they all came over here, settled in places like this, they worked hard and they earned the respect. They earned the success that they got. Some people don’t want to do that. They just want it handed to them.”

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:39 (eight years ago)

stout genial man who wears gold chains around his neck and rings on both pinkies

“Everybody I talk to,” he said, “realizes it’s not Trump who’s dragging his feet. Trump’s probably the most diligent, hardest-working president we’ve ever had in our lifetimes. It’s not like he sleeps in till noon and goes golfing every weekend, like the last president did.”

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:39 (eight years ago)

It’s not like he golfing every weekend
It’s not like he golfing every weekend
It’s not like he golfing every weekend
It’s not like he golfing every weekend
It’s not like he golfing every weekend

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:39 (eight years ago)

wtf he literally does go golfing every weekend!!!!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:40 (eight years ago)

“But I like him,” Frear reiterated. “Because he does what he says.”

It's true. His words and his actions are expressions of ignorance and incoherence. Oh, and spite and hate and venality.

Bernard Crunderdunder (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:40 (eight years ago)

he is, without a doubt, the golfiest president to have ever lived, in a way that shows the true rot behind golf culture

mh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:41 (eight years ago)

Oral history of Inside Donald Trump's Election Night War Room:

https://www.gq.com/story/inside-donald-trumps-election-night-war-room

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:41 (eight years ago)

reality never was a friend o' theirs xxp

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:42 (eight years ago)

Can't fix stupid

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:43 (eight years ago)

““All my ancestors, Italian, 100-percent Italian, the Irish, Germans, Polish, whatever—they all came over here, settled in places like this, they worked hard and they earned the respect their whiteness.”

Bernard Crunderdunder (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:43 (eight years ago)

The irish actually did have to earn their whiteness tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:44 (eight years ago)

All my ancestors, Italian, 100-percent Italian, the Irish, Germans, Polish, whatever—they all came over here, settled in places like this, they worked hard and they earned the respect.

And yet somehow I'll bet this guy doesn't love Jews

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:45 (eight years ago)

My favorite Trumpster loss last night was a local one, Tom Coyne, the shitstain mayor of Brook Park, OH (a working-class suburb which includes a Ford engine-assembly plant). He lost to an independent auto-worker's union rep:

Coyne served as mayor for two decades from 1982 to 2001. He declined to comment Tuesday night.

He then was reelected in 2013. Most recently, he made headlines by switching from the Democratic to the Republican party and supporting Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election.

He lost to Michael Gammella, a former city council president and an United Auto Workers union-Ford international representative.

Coyne said Tuesday night that he did not want to comment until results had been finalized.

Thomas Coyne Jr.: 37.59 percent

Jan Powers: 9.41 percent

Tom Colburn: 10.09 percent

Michael Gammella: 42.92 percent

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:46 (eight years ago)

he made headlines by switching from the Democratic to the Republican party and supporting Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election

lol waht

with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:48 (eight years ago)

Good morning to 69 people who decided NOT to stay home yesterday and defeated the chair of the VA House Republican caucus. pic.twitter.com/0wVor0ij2j

— Leigh Walton (@leighwalton) November 8, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:50 (eight years ago)

nice

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:51 (eight years ago)

I'm glad the end of that article spells out in no uncertain terms why these people are so hostile towards the NFL

amused by the comments calling this a "hit piece" when it just allows these people to speak freely. reminds me of the people railing against "biased" media coverage that just quoted Trump verbatim.

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:52 (eight years ago)

Sweet

Xp

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:52 (eight years ago)

man that is so awesome, so proud of VA right now

sleeve, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:53 (eight years ago)

Oral history of Inside Donald Trump's Election Night War Room:

https://www.gq.com/story/inside-donald-trumps-election-night-war-room

this is worth a read if you can stomach it

a choice selection:

Charles Johnson, alt-right activist: I went first to the Hilton around five-ish, six-ish, and then I was like, "Oh man, it's pretty dead, it's pretty boring. Fuck it, let's go to the Proud Boys thing," which was downtown. So we said, "All right."

(The Proud Boys—a pro-Trump "Western chauvinist" fraternity founded by VICE media's estranged co-founder, Gavin McInnes—are hosting an election night party at Gaslight lounge in New York's Meatpacking District.)

Charles Johnson: I saw Martin Shkreli there, and I was like, "Martin, I think you're going to go to jail. I don't want to be mean to you." He was kind of indignant, like, "No, man." I was like, "I hope you're having a good time, because you're going to prison." I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. And then Gavin came by and I was like, "Hey, he's going to jail," and he was like, "Don't say that!"

with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:57 (eight years ago)

never let them tell u the proud boys don't know how to party

with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:58 (eight years ago)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/08/upshot/the-other-virginia-elections-and-what-they-mean-for-2018.html?_r=0

The big question in 2018 might prove to be whether Democrats can have it all: Will it be possible to combine a Virginia-like near sweep of Republicans in Clinton districts with a broad Democratic overperformance in white working-class districts?

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:00 (eight years ago)

All my ancestors, Italian, 100-percent Italian, the Irish, Germans, Polish, whatever

the ability to "whatever" this is pretty funny imo

you know, whatever they were, italian and polish, same thing whatevs

mh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:14 (eight years ago)

GASLIGHT LOUNGE jfc you can't make this shit up

sleeve, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:15 (eight years ago)

Charles Johnson: I saw Martin Shkreli

in a time when twitter banned virtually no one for being abusive dipshits, both these guys were banned. Chuck way back in 2015

what a party

mh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:15 (eight years ago)

34 percent of voters said expressing opposition to Trump was a reason for their vote, with almost all of this group favoring Northam, per our in-house pollster Scott Clement. Half as many (17 percent) sought to express support for the president, while 47 percent said Trump was not a factor in their choice.

In Virginia, the network exit poll asked respondents which one of five issues mattered most in deciding their vote for governor: 39 percent said health care, far more than any other issue. And health-care focused voters favored Northam by a giant 77 percent to 23 percent margin in preliminary exit polls. Gillespie won handily among those who named taxes and immigration as their top issue. The candidates split among those who picked gun policy.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:20 (eight years ago)

All 14 of the seats that Democrats flipped are held by GOP men. Ten of their replacements will be women.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:22 (eight years ago)

amused by the comments calling this a "hit piece" when it just allows these people to speak freely

lol and they even evince awareness that they shouldn't be speaking freely and they know they're talking to a reporter and then they fucking do it anyway, fuck them

j., Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:24 (eight years ago)

happy 1-year anniversary everyone

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:50 (eight years ago)

ugh that article

the late great, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:50 (eight years ago)

how has it only been a year

with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:51 (eight years ago)

Pfft.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/08/corey-lewandowski-carter-page-email-244689

Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said Tuesday night his "memory has been refreshed" regarding his email exchange with Carter Page in which the former foreign policy adviser requested Lewandowski's permission to travel to Moscow.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:52 (eight years ago)

hard to remember all your shitty decisions when you spent so much time grifting and grafting

mh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:53 (eight years ago)

Carter Page: clarification - although I asked for Lewandowski’s permission, note that I did not ask for his approval. Totally different things.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:55 (eight years ago)

why would you remember the totally normal request from a colleague to travel to russia in the middle of a presidential campaign

with your tight body and horrific androgynous monster face (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:56 (eight years ago)

Carter Page: not even a request! More like an open ended question, really.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 16:59 (eight years ago)

I plead the fifth, if I told you what I did on Monday evening, it might make me look bad on the internet

mh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:02 (eight years ago)

this story about the pound shop trump who ran for nyc mayor and got 1% of the vote is amaaaazing

would anyone like to hear a good Bo Dietl story right now, courtesy of my step uncle

— extremely employable (@rachelmillman) November 8, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:10 (eight years ago)

via lag00n

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:10 (eight years ago)

lol

mh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:11 (eight years ago)

Republicans seeking to overhaul the federal tax code faced new head winds Wednesday, including a new $74 billion hole in their plan and political fallout from GOP losses in Tuesday's state and local elections.

Democrats won gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia on Tuesday and also stood on the cusp of winning control of the Virginia House of Delegates - a setback that many are calling a wake-up call to the GOP.

But top Republican tax writers split on Wednesday over exactly what signal voters sent.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Orrin G. Hatch, R-Utah, said the losses could shape the tax bill going forward.

"It could," he said in a brief morning interview. "I mean, it could, because the elections went against the Republicans."

Asked if he is feeling pressure to tilt the tax plan more toward the middle class, Hatch said, "I think we've been moving that way anyway."

But House Speaker Paul D. Ryan, R-Wis., said that he intended to move full steam ahead on a House plan that would cut taxes by $1.5 trillion over 10 years but deliver the bulk of the cuts to corporations and the wealthy.

"It doesn't change my reading of the current moment," Ryan said of the elections during a morning event hosted by the Washington Examiner. "It just emphasizes my reading of the current moment, which is: We have a promise to keep, and we have to get on with keeping our promise."

He added, "I fundamentally believe, when we deliver on comprehensive tax reform and tax relief ... I think that's going to bear fruit politically, but most importantly it's going to help people."

The initial version of the House tax bill delivered only 21 percent of its benefits to individuals, including the middle class, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation. Four-fifths of the bill's aggregate tax cut benefited corporations and business owners with family earnings of more than $260,000 a year, as well as wealthy individuals who would no longer be subject to the federal estate tax.

Republicans argue that the business tax cuts will drive economic growth, adding jobs and pushing up wages, thus creating benefits for Americans at large. But they have had to battle analyses showing that middle-class taxpayers would reap only a fraction of the bill's direct benefits, and that some of those taxpayers would actually face a tax increase.

The Senate is set to release its own version of the bill on Thursday, which is expected to differ significantly from the House bill. It could delay a planned cut in the corporate tax rate, for instance, but also eliminate a popular individual deduction for state and local taxes.

Changes made to the House bill since it was released last week have largely benefited corporations at the expense of individuals. While a change on Monday restored a $3.2 billion middle-class provision allowing those enrolled in employer-sponsored dependent-care savings plans to deduct up to $5,000 from their taxes, a revision on Friday rolled back individual tax cuts by nearly $82 billion by indexing individual tax parameters to a different measure of inflation that tends to grow more slowly.

Another amendment adopted Monday largely reversed a 20 percent excise tax levied on certain transactions between subsidiaries of multinational corporations. That tax, intended to prevent companies from shifting profits to lower-tax overseas affiliates, had generated strong resistance from powerful business interests.

The Joint Committee on Taxation found in an analysis issued late Tuesday that the reversal of the excise tax would cut revenue by $147.5 billion over a decade. A tweak to another corporate tax, the JCT found, would cut another $9.6 billion in revenue.

Combined with other changes, that leaves the GOP plan costing $1.574 trillion - $74 billion over a $1.5 trillion limit imposed under budget procedures Republicans adopted to skirt a Democratic filibuster in the Senate.

More than half of the overall tax cut, under the JCT's number, now flows to corporations, with another 32 percent benefiting owners of businesses that pass their earnings to the owners to be taxed as individual income. Individuals would get 16 percent of the aggregate tax cut.

Members of the House Ways and Means Committee entered their third day Wednesday debating and seeking to amend the tax bill. Only one Republican amendment has been adopted; the committee voted down nine Democratic amendments that sought to highlight the bill's impact on the middle class and on the federal budget deficit.

Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr., D-N.J., a member of the tax-writing panel, said Wednesday that Republicans were unwise to continue pushing along the same course after Tuesday's election results.

"There's a lot of squirming going on and a lot of unanswered questions that are being asked because they can't justify them taking from Peter to pay Paul," Pascrell said. "It's quite obvious that the election is a symptom of what's going on. This is bad bill, which they are stuttering through as they try to justify it, (is) only going to get worse as they try to change it."

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 17:12 (eight years ago)


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