VA DELEGATES COUNT: 48D, 47R. 5 seats to decide control:#HD27 (Chesterfield): Del. Robinson (R) up by 129 votes.#HD28 (F'burg): Thomas (R) up by 86.#HD40 (Fairfax): Tanner (D) up by 68.#HD68 (Richmond): Adams (D) up by 316.#HD94 (Newport News): Del. Yancey (R) up by 12.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 04:30 (eight years ago)
The race for Utah #3rd was less then 110 votes. The Democratic contender loosing 42% to the Republican winner's 43%. UTAH! And the Republican was a verrry popular mayor, quite moderate.
those numbers don't seem to be correct.
― new noise, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 04:42 (eight years ago)
Indeed. Looks like it was 58/27, more or less, which makes more sense.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 04:44 (eight years ago)
the cited numbers were the difference in salt lake county, not the state.
― new noise, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 04:46 (eight years ago)
Ah. Thanks for the correction! Still ... good for SLC.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 04:50 (eight years ago)
https://www.google.com/amp/minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/11/07/st-paul-mayor-race-results/amp/This is a big deal - in a race with 5 top spots filled with DFL peeps - guy who ran on frank discussion of systematic racism beats more likely electable solid dem guy who promised to add 50 cops.
― jjjusten, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 04:52 (eight years ago)
and a fuckin banker
i'm pleased with my electoral power tonite
― j., Wednesday, 8 November 2017 04:57 (eight years ago)
Another way to score tonight’s election results: the candidates whom Obama campaigned for won; the candidates whom Trump backed (but didn’t campaign for) lost.— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) November 8, 2017
Idg JiC's VA delegate count up there. If the Dems win the two seats they're leading they'll have 50 seats, and if the GOP picks up the three seats they're leading they will... also have 50? Is that right?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:10 (eight years ago)
And then the Lt. Gov breaks any ties.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:22 (eight years ago)
(Wait, not sure if that if that's just in the state senate.)
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:23 (eight years ago)
Bluhhhhhggghh Seattle on track to elect the shitty prosecutor slash handpicked successor of the child rapist mayor
― .oO (silby), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:24 (eight years ago)
re: Alabama
It's not that Roy Moore has overwhelming support. It's that "reasonable" republicans would prefer to stay home rather than vote for Doug Jones. So it will be small base (AL dems) vs. diminished base (AL gop).
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:25 (eight years ago)
hd68 just declared for dem, so they need 1 for 50, or 2 for control
i don't think the lt gov breaks ties though
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:29 (eight years ago)
Yeah, I was wrong. He does that in the VA state senate.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:38 (eight years ago)
AMAZING pic.twitter.com/zS67j3zYl7— Aaron Horwitz (@AaronTheH) November 8, 2017
― j., Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:46 (eight years ago)
JUST IN: Democrats win full control of Washington state government with key state Senate victory https://t.co/NuY327Shq8 pic.twitter.com/I1b9Nt3Fxd— The Hill (@thehill) November 8, 2017
― j., Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:49 (eight years ago)
the tweet seems to be newer than the linked story, which is yet undeclared as to victor, tho
― j., Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:52 (eight years ago)
Election results in WA take weeks to certify because of vote by mail, but the “late liberal” phenomenon in the greater Seattle area means that votes counted after Election Day pretty reliably trend towards the more progressive candidates. A Democrat with a lead on Election Day is going to win.
― .oO (silby), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:57 (eight years ago)
When asked about Bob Marshall, Danica Roem said “I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.” She has more grace and composure than I will ever have. #virginia #DanicaRoem— Nicholas Trevino (@BlyTarbell) November 8, 2017
: O
― j., Wednesday, 8 November 2017 06:44 (eight years ago)
Dems!@RalphNortham can’t even begin victory speech bc pro sanctuary cities activists are heckling him. pic.twitter.com/tNfBxdlNTr— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) November 8, 2017
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 08:34 (eight years ago)
Confirmed wins for DSA members: Carter, Pappas, Sipress, Singh Perez, Scott, Prizio, Decker, Ewen-Campen, Gloe, Farmer, and Rader.— process truster (@LarryWebsite) November 8, 2017
And @Billings_DSA member Denise Joy won her race for City Council Ward 3!— Billings DSA (@Billings_DSA) November 8, 2017
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 08:51 (eight years ago)
Aw rats, Grant lost his race in Seattle.
http://m.seattlepi.com/local/politics/article/Connely-Durkan-grabs-lead-for-Mayor-Mosqueda-12339465.php
Interesting choice of words here:
The apparent victories by Durkan and Mosqueda mark a win for mainstream progressive Democrats and a big defeat for the city's noisy, political left. The Stranger endorsed both Moon and Grant.
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 09:08 (eight years ago)
I think I read that if there is a tie in the Virginia legislature then some sort of a power-sharing arrangement comes into play. Ironically, in the past a split has apparently worked out really well for both parties, which are forced to cooperate and therefore produce more results.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 12:46 (eight years ago)
A couple of thoughts:
1) Both for the sake of morale and for the sake of practical gain, I am so glad we and Dems on the whole focused so much energy on state and local races. Those matter, and those wins further cut through the all-or-nothing illusion of high profile races. So much focus on the news right now about VA and NJ, which is fine, but I haven't heard or read many things getting to the nitty-gritty gains of the VA state legislature or Washington state, or even Georgia, all of which are pretty impressive and potentially very, very important.
2) I'm glad asshole Trump is not in the thread title. I think that made all the difference yesterday.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:24 (eight years ago)
Yay for Democrat Kathy Tran, first Vietnamese-American ever elected to Va. House of Delegates.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:50 (eight years ago)
The ilx-factor
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:50 (eight years ago)
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/07/northam-wins-virginia-election-democrats-infighting-215802
Politico headline on article: The Democratic Circular Firing Squad Dodges a Bullet
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 13:56 (eight years ago)
I don't even know what to say about that article, which starts
"Democrats tried pretty hard to lose the Virginia gubernatorial election. Yet they managed to win anyway"
I mean .. they tried hard to lose? By contesting tons of races that would have been handed to Republicans in previous cycles? By getting everybody on board so that the defeated primary candidate was criss-crossing the state busting his ass to get Northam a win? What does a state Democratic party have to do to convince pundits that maybe it knows what it's doing? Or is it just too easy for political writers to reach for "Democratic political operations are incompetent, if they lose they blew it, if they won it's despite themselves."
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:28 (eight years ago)
Yeah, fuck that perspective. Dems turned out in force and voted for Dems, there's not a lot of hand wringing to be wrought from those results.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:34 (eight years ago)
There's a reason why Charles Pierce calls Politico Tiger Beat On The Potomac
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:35 (eight years ago)
Hmm, when white people become a minority in America, will minorities still be called minorities?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:36 (eight years ago)
they will be called "the people on the other side of the gates"
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:03 (eight years ago)
starting to feel like the main message for Dems from now until 2020 should be targeted exclusively at young people and be something like "hey assholes, you actually have to vote"
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:06 (eight years ago)
and yeah that article is garbage - VA leans Dem, and there's an Republican president sitting at like 37% approval right now. if Gillespie had won, *that* would have been significant. of course I don't wanna understate how important yesterday was, especially in terms of whether or not "double down on Trump" is gonna be a viable strategy in 2018. as mentioned a zillion times in these threads these GOP assholes aren't gonna do a single meaningful thing to rebuke the idiot in charge of their party until they actually start losing elections. so, good job everyone
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:15 (eight years ago)
xp health care, health care, health care. as per Josh's post upthread:
The most encouraging thing I read about the VA election is that exit polls had health care at 60% the most important voter issue. And that's in a race where health care for all purposes was not even really debated. Which means the voters saw through the noise, which further bodes poorly for the GOP in 2018.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:15 (eight years ago)
Separately, a Politico story that says it all, and shouldn't surprise you in the least.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:15 (eight years ago)
other thing is that VA was at the center of a literal Nazi rally so I imagine that probably got a few more people off the couch
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:17 (eight years ago)
that's a good point and (being from VA) my anecdotal evidence is "definitely"
― sleeve, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:18 (eight years ago)
During his major address to the South Korean National Assembly, President Trump invoked his Bedminster golf club. Trump was complimenting South Korea and at one point talked about Korean golfers being some of the best on earth.
And then the President said this: “In fact, and you know what I’m going to say, the Women’s US Open was held this year at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey, and it just happened to be won by a great Korean golfer.”
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:28 (eight years ago)
destroy all golf clubs imo
― mh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:29 (eight years ago)
Build social housing on every golf course
― .oO (silby), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:30 (eight years ago)
god, that Johnstown article
“We’ve been trying to reach out to him to say, ‘Hey, remember us? We need help here,’” he told me. “That’s my only frustration. I’d just like to tell Trump, ‘Hello? We’re still here. We’re ready for you.’”
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:31 (eight years ago)
imo golf courses should be changed to a mixture of public parks/social housing and natural grassland prairie
put some buffalo in your back yard, it's good
― mh, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:32 (eight years ago)
I mean the level of cognitive dissonance on display is just depressing, you point out how Trump hasn't done jack shit to help nor made good on any of his campaign promises and you just get this
“But I like him,” Frear reiterated. “Because he does what he says.”
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:33 (eight years ago)
I'm so tired of stories about die-hard Trump voters. Who gives a shit? You want a minority, there's your minority. The shittiest, stupidest minority.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:34 (eight years ago)
Trump should compromise and get them more coal jobs and more opioids.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:35 (eight years ago)
what sports are going to be left for these guys to watch at the end of this? hockey? lacrosse?
― iatee, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:36 (eight years ago)
still waiting for the longform pieces about the people who did not vote for Trump but I won't hold my breath
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:37 (eight years ago)
These idiots are the forgotten people for a reason.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 15:37 (eight years ago)