On the plus side, Zuckerberg during their earnings call deviated from script and said specifically that the company was spending so much to right the ship that earnings would actually be negatively affected. So there is that.
that's what i mean, though! a plus is that this unelected dude we have no control over has generously decided to donate a small portion of his company's profits to the idea of helping out the country that currently contains their headquarters, and we're all like "well, he can do whatever he wants and it affects all of us, but glad they did the right thing here." that is power
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 November 2017 20:22 (eight years ago)
the name is "the state of nature"
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 4 November 2017 20:23 (eight years ago)
wait i mean the other way round lol. sure fucked up that partic gnomic truism
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 4 November 2017 20:24 (eight years ago)
anyway i posted this in the pol phil thread cuz found it spooky
sheldon wolin on hobbes:
The state of nature symbolized not only an extreme disorder in human relations, causing men to consent to the creation of an irresistible power; it was also a condition distraught by an anarchy of meanings. In nature each man could freely use his reason to seek his own ends: each was the final judge of what constituted rationality. The problem posed involved more than the moral issues arising from man's vanity or his desire for pre-eminence. It was a genuinely philosophical one involving the status of knowledge....[Man] alone of all the animals possessed speech and was capable of science, yet he alone could turn speech into deception, ideas into sedition, learning into mystification.... These ironical overtones rule out interpreting the state of nature as belonging to the remote past... Instead, it represented an imaginative reconstruction of a recurrent human possibility ... built on the causes and consequences of political breakdown. Its meaning remained eternally contemporary and urgent....
In this sense, the concept did not belong solely to the past or even to the present. Its status was that of an ever-present possibility inherent in any organized political society, a ubiquitous threat which, like some macabre companion, accompanied society in every stage of its journey. It was present each night, as men sealed themselves in their homes and succeeded only in locking in fear.... The content of the state of nature could be filled in by consulting "the manner of life which men that have formerly lived under a peaceful government, use to generate into, in a civil war."
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:25 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 4 November 2017 20:26 (eight years ago)
In Nietzsche's dream we each remain the arbiters of rationality, and like Hobbes this betrays the usual promise of objectivity; but there is, he says, another way to understand objectivity:
understood not as `disinterested contemplation' (which is a non-concept and absurdity), but rather as the capacity to have one's pro and contra in one's power, and to shift them in and out: so that one knows how to make precisely the difference in perspectives and affective interpretations useful for knowledge...There is only a perspectival seeing, only a perspectival `knowing'; and the more affects we allow to speak about a matter, the more eyes, different eyes, we know how to bring to bear on one and the same matter, that much more complete will our concept of this matter, our objectivity be.
Objectivity as completeness: but this is the aim only of a very powerful individual, one who can assume so many different identities that she can see the question from every angle.
To N there is no "neutral" point of view, no neutral individual, no neutral state. Only the best, though, can inhabit a multiplicity of points of view, of identities; on them rests the possibility of another escape from the state of nature.
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 4 November 2017 20:53 (eight years ago)
hey that sounds democratic
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 4 November 2017 20:57 (eight years ago)
yes!
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:19 (eight years ago)
tho tbf it also sounds okay to the kind of guy who thinks he's my voice
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 4 November 2017 21:34 (eight years ago)
stopped clock
NEW: WH responds to Bush41 calling POTUS a "blowhard". Calls Iraq "greatest foreign policy mistakes in American history". via/ @NoahGrayCNN pic.twitter.com/XQ2f1JK81C— Ryan Nobles (@ryanobles) November 4, 2017
― Simon H., Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:00 (eight years ago)
Impending death clears the mind.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:06 (eight years ago)
where's the tax returns?
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:23 (eight years ago)
what is the name for a society built upon a commonly shared respect for facts?
THE ENLIGHTENMENT
― j., Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:34 (eight years ago)
He doesn’t know the difference between 41 and 43 right
― frogbs, Saturday, 4 November 2017 22:39 (eight years ago)
Rand Paul was just beat up by his neighbor?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 November 2017 23:29 (eight years ago)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/11/04/sen-rand-paul-assaulted-his-kentucky-home-man-arrested/832663001/
so who would be the best kind of aggrieved constituent for him to have been assaulted by, politically
― j., Saturday, 4 November 2017 23:29 (eight years ago)
A woman
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 4 November 2017 23:52 (eight years ago)
Reported elsewhere it's his neighbor.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 November 2017 23:53 (eight years ago)
Yeah, not a rando
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 4 November 2017 23:55 (eight years ago)
sounds like a Bowling Green massacre
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Saturday, 4 November 2017 23:56 (eight years ago)
p sure any major military contractor doesn't like Paul v much
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 November 2017 00:05 (eight years ago)
otoh no major military contractor has ever actually suffered so much as a broken fingernail from his posturing nonsense
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 November 2017 00:07 (eight years ago)
Such people don't like unfriendly rhetoric even if it is ineffectual, e.g. Wall Street turning on Obama because he made grumpy noises while he ensured that they paid not a jot for their Subprime Era crimes.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 November 2017 00:21 (eight years ago)
"don't just suck me off, tell me how much you like it"
Trump: I came here to see the pokemons.Abe: They aren't real.Trump: Just show them to me. pic.twitter.com/mlkjCVhYmg— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) November 5, 2017
― j., Sunday, 5 November 2017 04:05 (eight years ago)
is...did...I...just... https://t.co/TGgP7YDbGi pic.twitter.com/9y6p8LGSm5— Eric Geller (@ericgeller) November 5, 2017
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 November 2017 06:44 (eight years ago)
It's funny the way that qualities I'd find charming in a three-year-old make me want this septuagenarian to go to sleep and never wake up.
― Vas the deferens? (Old Lunch), Sunday, 5 November 2017 12:48 (eight years ago)
Donald Trump, forever lobbing katanas at ballistic missiles
― bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Sunday, 5 November 2017 13:00 (eight years ago)
Looks like Flynn and his idiot son are next
Please let this happen while Trump is still overseas
― frogbs, Sunday, 5 November 2017 15:34 (eight years ago)
Sounds like this shoe is finally dropping.
EXCLUSIVE: Special Counsel Robert Mueller has enough evidence to bring charges in Michael Flynn investigation https://t.co/8TD2rrfPiw pic.twitter.com/0WSRPX1Kd7— NBC News (@NBCNews) November 5, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 November 2017 15:34 (eight years ago)
Oh I should clarify. It’s Flynn’s idiot son, not Trump’s
― frogbs, Sunday, 5 November 2017 15:39 (eight years ago)
You know what's weird? I heard that apparently Michael Flynn's son is actually named Michael Flynn. Not Michael Flynn Jr., just Michael Flynn. I think he informally goes by Jr.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 November 2017 15:49 (eight years ago)
This winter: Indictment Mondays!!
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 5 November 2017 15:52 (eight years ago)
xp Is that weird? I share the same name as my father and grandfather and none of us have a suffix.
― jmm, Sunday, 5 November 2017 15:53 (eight years ago)
maybe it's not weird?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 November 2017 16:06 (eight years ago)
You're only a junior if your full name is exactly like your dad's, including middle name.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 November 2017 16:06 (eight years ago)
The Jr. thing is very American. So given that he is American, I suppose it's weird.
― Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 November 2017 16:11 (eight years ago)
Flynn the Elder, Flynn the Younger, Flynn the Eskimo...
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 5 November 2017 16:13 (eight years ago)
Flynn Jr. is currently posting jubilantly on Twitter about a woman being punched.
― jmm, Sunday, 5 November 2017 16:20 (eight years ago)
flynn the traitor. tomorrow's gonna be interesting
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 5 November 2017 16:45 (eight years ago)
That would be his twitter, @mflynnjr
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 5 November 2017 18:50 (eight years ago)
Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary in the Trump administration, shares business interests with Vladimir Putin’s immediate family, and he failed to clearly disclose those interests when he was being confirmed for his cabinet position.Ross — a billionaire industrialist — retains an interest in a shipping company, Navigator Holdings, that was partially owned by his former investment company. One of Navigator’s most important business relationships is with a Russian energy firm controlled, in turn, by Putin’s son-in-law and other members of the Russian president’s inner circle.Some of the details of Ross’s continuing financial holdings — much of which were not disclosed during his confirmation process — are revealed in a trove of more than 7 million internal documents of Appleby, a Bermuda-based law firm, that was leaked to the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung. The documents consist of emails, presentations and other electronic data. These were then shared with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists — a global network that won the Pulitzer Prize this year for its work on the Panama Papers — and its international media partners. NBC News was given access to some of the leaked documents, which the ICIJ calls the “Paradise Papers.”...Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., said members of Congress who were part of Ross’ confirmation hearings were under the impression that Ross had divested all of his interests in Navigator. Furthermore, he said, they were unaware of Navigator’s close ties to Russia.“I am astonished and appalled because I feel misled,” said Blumenthal. “Our committee was misled, the American people were misled by the concealment of those companies.” Blumenthal said he will call for the inspector general of the Commerce Department to launch an investigation.
Ross — a billionaire industrialist — retains an interest in a shipping company, Navigator Holdings, that was partially owned by his former investment company. One of Navigator’s most important business relationships is with a Russian energy firm controlled, in turn, by Putin’s son-in-law and other members of the Russian president’s inner circle.
Some of the details of Ross’s continuing financial holdings — much of which were not disclosed during his confirmation process — are revealed in a trove of more than 7 million internal documents of Appleby, a Bermuda-based law firm, that was leaked to the German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung. The documents consist of emails, presentations and other electronic data. These were then shared with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists — a global network that won the Pulitzer Prize this year for its work on the Panama Papers — and its international media partners. NBC News was given access to some of the leaked documents, which the ICIJ calls the “Paradise Papers.”
...Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., said members of Congress who were part of Ross’ confirmation hearings were under the impression that Ross had divested all of his interests in Navigator. Furthermore, he said, they were unaware of Navigator’s close ties to Russia.
“I am astonished and appalled because I feel misled,” said Blumenthal. “Our committee was misled, the American people were misled by the concealment of those companies.” Blumenthal said he will call for the inspector general of the Commerce Department to launch an investigation.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/leaked-documents-show-commerce-secretary-concealed-ties-putin-cronies-n817711
good luck blumenthal
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 5 November 2017 19:14 (eight years ago)
Donald Trump found in a dog's ear pic.twitter.com/q0K6sdpg1G— Faces in Things (@FacesPics) November 4, 2017
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:58 (eight years ago)
well that’s a uniquely upsetting image
― What's the range of an Iranian frogman dipshit? (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:16 (eight years ago)
Here's a tweedledum-fat profile picture of him to clear your mind:https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/11/05/us/06PREXY/06PREXY-superJumbo.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:38 (eight years ago)
At this rate this may be the first president with his first Lil' Scoot. Lil' Scoot One.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:39 (eight years ago)
OK, I know the URL refers to the plane behind him but the fact that the Times tagged that photo "06PREXY-superJumbo" is cracking me up.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:46 (eight years ago)
Ha, that was my thought, too!
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 November 2017 21:52 (eight years ago)
BOWLING GREEN, Ky. — Sen. Rand Paul is recovering from five broken ribs and bruises to his lungs, and it is unclear when he will return to Washington, aides said Sunday, signaling that injuries he sustained Friday are far more severe than initially thought.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 6 November 2017 02:08 (eight years ago)
Fat Trump is fat, but he ain't no William Howard Taft.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 6 November 2017 02:10 (eight years ago)
give him time
― j., Monday, 6 November 2017 02:12 (eight years ago)