The Coddling Of The American Mind (Trigger Warning Article In The Atlantic...)

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They'll take a statue of Madison, turn it around, topple it over, and shoe him where the shoe fits.

Frederik B, Saturday, 4 November 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

http://induecourse.ca/affirmative-action-for-conservative-academics/

j., Monday, 13 November 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Oh no

Jonathan Haidt on the two threats to liberal democracy: the right wing in politics, and the left wing on campus. https://t.co/WrKa1Q60Pl

— Steven Pinker (@sapinker) December 20, 2017

https://www.city-journal.org/html/age-outrage-15608.html

Haidt’s thing really does begin like this:

What is happening to our country, and our universities? It sometimes seems that everything is coming apart. To understand why, I have found it helpful to think about an idea from cosmology called “the fine-tuned universe.” There are around 20 fundamental constants in physics—things like the speed of light, Newton’s gravitational constant, and the charge of an electron. In the weird world of cosmology, these are constants throughout our universe, but it is thought that some of them could be set to different values in other universes. As physicists have begun to understand our universe, they have noticed that many of these physical constants seem to be set just right to allow matter to condense and life to get started.

For a few of these constants, if they were just one or two percent higher or lower, matter would have never condensed after the big bang. There would have been no stars, no planets, no life. As Stephen Hawking put it, “the remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life.”

Some have suggested that this fine-tuning might be evidence for the existence of God. This would be a deist conception of God, of the sort that Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and most of the Founding Fathers believed in: a God who set up the universe like a giant clock, with exactly the right springs and gears, and then set it in motion. I myself am not taking fine-tuning as evidence of God. I’m simply using it as a way to open this lecture. I want to lift your attention up into the cosmos and put you into a mindset that is awestruck at our improbability. And if I have succeeded in doing that, then I’d like you to take that same mindset and apply it to the existence of our improbable country.

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

oh man I'm in the middle of grading papers right now and that kind of rambling off topic speculative introduction is rampant. c+, blatant filler, outline is not under control.

(clearly the only explanation is that my students are all coddled leftists)

the pleather of pleather paul (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

read the thread title as meaning (trigger warning: article in the atlantic)

plax (ico), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

it's a lecture guys. ppl do all kinds of rambling in lectures to keep audiences attention - they tell jokes, stories, etc. i know you disagree with his arguments but try to focus on them and not on the meaningless intro he used to discuss them.

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

sorry chief

j., Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

lol sure okay. "try to focus on the author's argument, and not the way the author advances a position through deliberate choices in framing and delivering their thoughts." good advice i'll be sure to tell my students that.

the pleather of pleather paul (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

also it's not a lecture. it's an essay published on the internet. which announces upfront that it's edited from a lecture. which means you don't have to keep "all kinds of rambling" which btw is not exactly a sign of a great lecturer anyway in my book. what we actually have here is not a spellbinding rhetorical flourish to keep an audience engaged, but three paragraphs of a strained and sloppy analogy to physics in order to introduce the idea of... now wait for it because this is an unfamiliar concept for most of you.... "fine-tuning." what will those scientists come up with next?

the pleather of pleather paul (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

Imagine three kids making a human chain with their arms, and one kid has his free hand wrapped around a pole. The kids start running around in a circle, around the pole, faster and faster. The centrifugal force increases. That’s the force pulling outward as the human centrifuge speeds up. But at the same time, the kids strengthen their grip. That’s the centripetal force, pulling them inward along the chain of their arms. Eventually the centrifugal force exceeds the centripetal force and their hands slip. The chain breaks. This, I believe, is what is happening to our country.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

since you asked.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

demonstrating still further his excellent grasp of physics

the pleather of pleather paul (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

btw in addition to the points you might expect if you've spoken to a boomer in the past decade (the kids don't love america; where have you gone walter cronkite; war is great and unifying but "vietnam was different" for some reason we don't have time to go into) that essay also manages to slip in a blandly euphemized version of a real classic:

we didn’t manage the healing process well in the Reconstruction era

now of course, this is ambiguous! he doesn't actually say reconstruction was too harsh. maybe he means something else; maybe he means the opposite! it would be cool to know, because iirc the civil war and its aftermath is an important time in american history and anyone putting forth a big theory about why the country's gone where it's gone should probably be able to tell you whether they think reconstruction was too harsh or not. no time here, tho; gotta talk about tetherball. i wonder why the whole essay is on this weightless, empty level, tersely citing exceptions to its rules without explaining them and implying that something was wrong w reconstruction without specifying what, all while finding the time to go into multigraf detail on its pompous technical metaphors. i hope it is just because the guy does not know a whole lot.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

It has always been wrong to bet against America, and it is probably wrong to do so now. My libertarian friends constantly remind me that people are resourceful; when problems get more severe, people get more inventive, and that might be happening to us right now.

maybe!

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

only time, time itself, will tell

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

My libertarian friends constantly remind me that people are resourceful; when problems get more severe, people get more inventive

Your libertarian friends are telling you that as an argument for immiserating the bulk of the population in order to help them achieve their innovation potential

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link

'it has always been wrong to bet against america'

i thought this guy was supposed to be a fucking scientist

j., Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

what a shitty article

the late great, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

oh now he's a professor of 'ethical leadership' in a business school

j., Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link

I like the physics metaphors. That’s the only way I’m gonna communicate on ilx from now on.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

http://alicedreger.com/Wellesley

All in all, I think the engagement at the Wellesley protest went well, even if it was an ironic lesson in the social construction of identity. A number of students came up to me to say they had really had their minds opened by realizing what they’re told about someone might not at all be true. A few told me they were planning to push back against the problem of what amounts to falsehood-based activism.

So, I felt like I did a pretty good job for the students and faculty there. But it was impossible not to leave with a renewed sense of just how fucked up campuses are right now.

j., Monday, 19 February 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link

a renewed sense of just how fucked up campuses are right now

It seems to me that the people who are creating fake Facebook and Twitter accounts impersonating her, and the Facebook and Twitter corporations who allow impersonations to persist, are the truly fucked-up people and entities. Students being taken in by such impersonations may be naïve or gullible, but that is not the same as fucked up.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 19 February 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-wonder-wayne-lapierre-is-on-edge/2018/02/23/3aedcab0-18af-11e8-b681-2d4d462a1921_story.html?utm_term=.be1d376677ba

He saw a “tidal wave” of “European-style socialists bearing down upon us,” creating a “captive society,” eliminating “resistance,” making a “list” in a cloud database of those who spank their children, expunging the “fundamental concept of moral behavior,” controlling speech through “safe zones.”

...

LaPierre singled out three billionaire capitalists to blame for the socialist revolution: George Soros, Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer. But he saw conspirators everywhere in the government — Trump’s government: the FBI (with its “corruption” and “rogue leadership”) the Justice Department, the Environmental Protection Agency, the intelligence agencies. He also blamed the Democrats, media, Hollywood, universities, classrooms, Black Lives Matter, elites and Keith Ellison.

Even the CPAC audience seemed to be stunned by this unhinged time-traveler from the Cold War. “You know, I hear a lot of quiet in this room, and I sense your anxiety,” he said. “And you should be anxious, and you should be frightened.”

j., Friday, 23 February 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link

A certain ex-ilxor:

https://splinternews.com/if-you-truly-care-about-speech-you-will-invite-me-to-y-1823614969

If You Truly Care About Speech, You Will Invite Me to Your Office to Personally Call You a Dipshit

Civil society requires the toleration of the expression of opposing viewpoints, no matter how personally discomforting you may find them. Therefore, it would be profoundly hypocritical for the editorial staff of the New York Times opinion section not to immediately invite me to come to their offices to call them all morons and trolls.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link

tick vg

nyt op-ed seems especially rudderless/clueless these days even for them

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link

Pareene was on ILX?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link

One of Pareene's best. It even got Lawyers Guns & Money linkage.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link

he was here for quite awhile!

xpost

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link

My local alt-weekly’s resident Bari Weiss fan wrote a great article today detailing the history of Satanic child abuse hysteria and then comparing it to the current calls for a boycott of a local business over an allegedly racially-motivated firing.

JoeStork, Friday, 9 March 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link

Did Sommers actually have to cut her speech short as a result of the heckling? That seems like a key point.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link

David French has some words for y'all sliming Bari Weiss!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 March 2018 03:14 (six years ago) link

grownups with power really are the worst

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 9 March 2018 08:16 (six years ago) link

was the response incorrect do u just not agree with his..........tone......................................

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Friday, 9 March 2018 09:09 (six years ago) link

Did Sommers actually have to cut her speech short as a result of the heckling? That seems like a key point.

Because I do think that a university's obligation to allow student groups to invite speakers of varying persuasions on various topics, and to allow these speakers to speak without being shut down by hecklers, is greater than an editorial board's (or e.g. the university administration's) obligation to allow someone to insult them privately in their office. Neither is really a free speech issue in the legal sense but I do think there is an academic freedom issue here. Perhaps an argument could be made in cases where e.g. a speaker might single out and harass individual students but I definitely don't think that Christina Hoff Sommers is an example of this.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link

the academic freedom to give a platform to dumb-as-a-rock speakers must be upheld

War, Famine, Pestilence, Death, Umami (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

Um, yes, that is my position (although I don't agree that Sommers is dumb as a rock, even when I disagree with her).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:26 (six years ago) link

I'm glad that's your position but it's important that you know that it's not the position of this particular vein of "free speech activists," whose position is that it's a big problem for free speech if hollering students delay a speech by five minutes, but nbd when speakers with political beliefs that might offend state legislators are barred by the administration from appearing on campus in the first place, or are fired by universities when already employed there.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 March 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

Well, the latter sort concerns me more and my posts to these threads probably show as much. That doesn't mean that one can't be concerned about both things. One can also both be frustrated by the hypocrisy of selective 'free speech activists' and disagree with the parallel that Pareene seems to be implying.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

The local Muslim Students’ Association wanted to invite a speaker to ASU.
*The university sent a contract stipulating that any speaker that comes cannot be involved in the BDS movement.
*This is a gross violation of free speech
*Therefore, we are suing.https://t.co/wWprq2lGOD pic.twitter.com/tzdZ8krRhc

— Imraan Siddiqi (@imraansiddiqi) March 2, 2018

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Friday, 9 March 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

For this tweet I am being told I am a racist

j., Sunday, 11 March 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

isnt this the lady with an extensive twitter history of using slurs and shit?

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

ah, this is the lady who thinks Hamilton makes it ok for members of the press to call people immigrants even if they were born in the country

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link

isnt this the lady with an extensive twitter history of using slurs and shit?

No, that was Quinn Norton, who was (publicly) hired and sacked within a 24-hour timespan.

Simon H., Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link

Double lol: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/02/afflictions

Frederik B, Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link

scroll to the bottom for Sully's weekly screed on lib intolerance

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link


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