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Sanders didn't have this kind of agreement. And the main problem with the revelation that the agreement was only meant to be about the General Election isn't whether or not it is true, it's that Brazile left it out, undermining her credibility as to the rest of what she wrote completely. The agreement is still bad and stupid, but the story is basically more about DNC incompetence since 2008, culminating in the Hillary campaign having to bail them out, then it is about impartiality. The NPR story can still only mention the whole weekend debate controversy, as if that did any difference at all.

Frederik B, Saturday, 4 November 2017 10:39 (eight years ago)

Sanders also signed a joint fundraising agreement, which is what this is. Highlighted language is typical right of review for a joint venture.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Saturday, 4 November 2017 11:06 (eight years ago)

Clinton's joint fundraising agreement is a separate document. This was a memorandum on top of that, according to that NPR piece.

Frederik B, Saturday, 4 November 2017 11:14 (eight years ago)

So Brazile apparently also claims in her book that she considered taking the nomination away from Clinton and making Biden and Corey Booker the ticket.

(For those who don't know, this is not actually something the head of the DNC can do.)

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 4 November 2017 18:45 (eight years ago)

hoooo boy

Simon H., Saturday, 4 November 2017 18:56 (eight years ago)

A Twitter thread from Joy Reid:

A small note - that’s actually a big one - on the subject of “rigging...”

— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) November 3, 2017

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:14 (eight years ago)

Mastery of trivia in the face of apocalypse is something, for sure

El Tomboto, Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:30 (eight years ago)

brazile is producing some...interesting quotes, if legit

This is such grandiloquent nonsense. The idea that Brazile had it in her power to do this but had mercy on Clinton’s followers. My god. pic.twitter.com/mBY8rD7y4i

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 4, 2017

k3vin k., Sunday, 5 November 2017 07:35 (eight years ago)

this is definitely not a sign of a Party in terminal crisis https://t.co/PychLyplaJ

— LG (@TradWifeWineMom) November 5, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 5 November 2017 09:25 (eight years ago)

Impossible to even follow that thread linked in there

El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 November 2017 13:11 (eight years ago)

how's the terminal crisis going

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 05:56 (eight years ago)

like this?

Favorable views of the Democratic Party have dropped to their lowest mark in more than a quarter century of polling, according to new numbers from a CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

Only 37% of Americans have a favorable opinion of Democrats, down from 44% in March of this year....

Overall, 36% of registered voters who identify as Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents say they are extremely or very enthusiastic about voting next year, down from 44% who said so in September. That puts Democratic enthusiasm on par with that of Republicans, which stands at 37%.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/politics/cnn-poll-republicans-democrats-taxes/index.html

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:53 (eight years ago)

I read it too. What a difference 24 hours makes. I may wake up and wanna watch Lifeboat again.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:55 (eight years ago)

you mean those two lesser-evil assholes that won last night make it all bed-der? Shirley, you can't be serious...

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:00 (eight years ago)

The downballot victories are more significant

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:02 (eight years ago)

possibly so. let's see if they can build on it. start by locking Schumer and Emanuel in a closet.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:03 (eight years ago)

Having a white-hot hatred of the opposition tends to occlude one's vision into the faults of your erstwhile allies. But rationally speaking a lesser evil is better than a greater evil. No one calls a broken toe "good", but almost everyone will choose it over a broken neck as the "better" option.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:08 (eight years ago)

Schumer is doing much better than i expected as Min Leader imo

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:13 (eight years ago)

in the last hour I've learned Donna Brazile is appearing on Tucker Carlson's show and she had a nice chat with Sheriff Clarke. My guess is she'll be replacing Omarosa by week's end.

seriously, every lefty who tried to welcome her to the flock because she put the HRC campaign on blast looks like a straight up clown right now.

evol j, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:13 (eight years ago)

xpost Yeah, he's kept the party united as an opposition party, especially when literally just one Dem defector could have made a big difference.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:15 (eight years ago)

Can you believe all these libs supporting republicans who criticize trump? Disgusting

Donna Brazile welcome to the DSA

— Quinoa🖕Appropriator (@MattAlwaysWrong) November 5, 2017

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:19 (eight years ago)

ah thx, i forgot to post these. xxp

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/dem-pundits-spent-yesterday-lying-about-dnc-primary-rigging-document-d60019c59c3e

https://theintercept.com/2017/11/05/four-viral-claims-spread-by-journalists-on-twitter-in-the-last-week-alone-that-are-false/

(No balanced lefty is going to 'welcome' a lifelong political hack that quickly, regardless of the conents of her book.)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:19 (eight years ago)

Johnstone is a Seth Rich truther who also wrote a medium piece about how that left should ally with the alt-right.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:23 (eight years ago)

sorry, i don't keep up

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:28 (eight years ago)

The Greenwald piece doesn’t really prove falsehoods just kind of claims it repeatedly.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:41 (eight years ago)

sorry, i don't keep up

we know

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:50 (eight years ago)

i mean like Dem employees like Nerdstrom

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:51 (eight years ago)

lol i'm sposed to know every politics writer on the interwebz OOOH GOTCHA GOTCHA

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 20:52 (eight years ago)

greenwald can gtfo until he stops being a useful idiot for tucker carlson.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 21:12 (eight years ago)

In NYC, ran into @donnabrazile and talked about her book. Even though our political views are polar opposite, we had a great conversation. Complimented her on her courage to out the DNC and #CrookedHillary. Say what you want, more Dems should tell the truth. pic.twitter.com/IBzP6Ma9jR

— David A. Clarke, Jr. (@SheriffClarke) November 8, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 21:19 (eight years ago)

Damn

flappy bird, Thursday, 9 November 2017 02:49 (eight years ago)

clarke's hats are getting worse

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 November 2017 03:22 (eight years ago)

love those photoshops where people make his hat gigantic and seat partway down his face

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 9 November 2017 04:48 (eight years ago)

In the past few weeks, I've visited with three amazing women running as first-time candidates for Congress in largely rural districts. I have things to say about the Democratic Party

— Pinboard (@Pinboard) November 10, 2017

j., Friday, 10 November 2017 05:09 (eight years ago)

I mean it never fails pic.twitter.com/ZUdzgCLuGO

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) November 11, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 November 2017 15:08 (eight years ago)

The trick is to move further left on issues that are broadly popular and not emphasize the issues that only appeal to a tiny niche. You can deal with the niche issues once you are in office and no one in the broad public will notice or care, while those in the tiny niche will be made happy and remember the favor.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:46 (eight years ago)

That is way too sensible

Οὖτις, Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:50 (eight years ago)

outside of finance, there is no profession where people who have never won anything get to scold others on how to win more than dem political "strategist"

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) November 11, 2017

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Sunday, 12 November 2017 22:15 (eight years ago)

Related to that Molly Ball article I think we linked to upthread about the Third Way group going on safari, she was interviewed about this on Daniel Denvir’s show last week:

https://www.blubrry.com/thedig/28772955/the-hollow-center-with-molly-ball-and-eric-levitz/

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 01:07 (eight years ago)

Democratic Party's elevator pitch to millennials?

"Capitalism 2.0." - @MarkWarner
"We look like you." - @amyklobuchar#WSJCEOCouncil

— Josh Jamerson (@joshjame) November 14, 2017

mookieproof, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 15:23 (eight years ago)

lmao I came here to post that

Simon H., Tuesday, 14 November 2017 17:36 (eight years ago)

"Means-testing on fleek."
"Endless drone warfare, but gender fluid."
"Airbnb for the prison-industrial complex."
"Swipe right-to-work."

— Andrew Moreturkey (@andrewmochulsky) November 14, 2017

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:05 (eight years ago)

The idea of a an "elevator pitch" containing anything of genuine political value is absurd to begin with. It's just "I like Ike" brought into the 21st century.

otoh, that goddamn "Contract with America" that Newt cooked up in 1996 probably did reach a lot of people who liked what it said and voted republican as a result. I sometimes wonder why that concept got booted to the curb in later elections. It had promise as a way to define the party political agenda and its identity, all in ten or so simple bullet points. Probably its because Newt bullied the entire House republican caucus to sign the thing and that feat has been impossible to replicate.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:07 (eight years ago)

that joke sucks kingfish

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:11 (eight years ago)

The idea of a an "elevator pitch" containing anything of genuine political value is absurd to begin with. It's just "I like Ike" brought into the 21st century.

Oh I dunno, I think elevator pitches(or slogans in this case) containing inherent, inspirational values are useful.

“Change you can believe in” and “For the many, not the few” both work.

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:36 (eight years ago)

that joke sucks kingfish

Possibly, but I liked “Swipe right-to-work”

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:37 (eight years ago)

"Hope & Change" and "Make America Great Again" worked pretty well

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:40 (eight years ago)

If by working pretty well, you mean they created an emotional attraction on the art of some voters toward the candidate, I guess that could be seen as having 'political value'. But the sort of value I had in mind was more in terms of indicating the policies the candidate or party would pursue.

As far as setting policy direction, Hope & Change could just as easily apply to Trump starting a war with North Korea. It's a change. And we'd all be hoping like mad once it started. Making America Great Again could as easily promote returning to the income tax rates of 1960.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:53 (eight years ago)

The manifesto thingy worked pretty well for Labour across the pond, but I guess over here nobody gives a shit about party platforms

bodak horseman (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 20:00 (eight years ago)


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