US Politics November 2017

What about the deleted E-mails, Uranium, Podesta, the Server, plus, plus...

Ladies and Gentlemen, the President of the United States.

....People are angry. At some point the Justice Department, and the FBI, must do what is right and proper. The American public deserves it!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 3, 2017

Um, DJT OTM?

Are people actually befuddled by that word must be getting out tweet? Doesnt he say shit like that all the time?

I went up 2 points in the polls
The message must be getting out etc

he's much more likely to say shit like 'the fake news media won't tell you that the stock market is at a record high! iirc

ISIS just claimed the Degenerate Animal who killed, and so badly wounded, the wonderful people on the West Side, was "their soldier." .....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 3, 2017

...Based on that, the Military has hit ISIS "much harder" over the last two days. They will pay a big price for every attack on us!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 3, 2017

What is time? Time is of no consequence to us here, in hell.

cause THEN effect? not in trump's america, pal

biggest attack on the West Side since Common released "The Bitch in You"

"degenerate animal", nice, let's just go there shall we

Everyone looks like a degenerate animal to a degenerate animal.

This is grim, and I assume the thought's gone through everyone's mind anyway: what if it doesn't matter?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/2/16588964/america-epistemic-crisis

Yeah, I think that without intense and sustained effort to turn this ship around, we're on a slow but certain journey into a new iteration of the Dark Ages.

Once enough people have undertaken a campaign against consensus reality, there's really nowhere else to go.

"degenerate animal", nice, let's just go there shall we

― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, November 3, 2017 8:42 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea it is so gross

And intense and sustained effort is being comprehensively pre-framed as "New World Order!"

the Vegas shooter's not degenerate tho, he's an interesting riddle to be cracked. fml

The most depressing thought re: all the current goings-on and in particular "mainstream" GOP retirements is that the next few generations of GOP candidates (and therefore winners or obstructionists) may all be full-on Trump/Moore etc.deluded lunatics. That's what I don't get from the craven Ryan/Mitch myopic approach: clearly they see what is happening, right? Those guys are dicks, but they're not crazy, and I can't imagine they want a party of Roy Moores, either. I mean, the flip answer is "of course they do," but I don't know about that. We've made it so far over the Trump hump that I fear we have to wait till it all rolls around to the beginning again.

I think they've mostly given up

Yeah, but in all seriousness, what does that mean?

This is grim, and I assume the thought's gone through everyone's mind anyway: what if it doesn't matter?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/2/16588964/america-epistemic-crisis🕸

there will and must be a counterforce to that

On his face, though, in essence, is Trump any crazier than Reagan? More conservative than Reagan or his crew? I don't think so. It's just annoying/frightening to watch someone try to recapture that particular era of callous lunacy.

yea I think the comments about the future of right wing media/politicians all being Gamergate/Cernovich types is pretty OTM, these are pretty much the only young Republicans that exist right now

On his face, though, in essence, is Trump any crazier than Reagan? More conservative than Reagan or his crew? I don't think so. It's just annoying/frightening to watch someone try to recapture that particular era of callous lunacy.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, November 3, 2017 9:46 AM

Reagan lied and often lied well, and the Beltway press was even more populated by credulous gasbags than now, but two notable exceptions aside Reagan's approval ratings were steady.

there will and must be a counterforce to that

from where? trump diehards aren't going to believe anything from 'fake news' outlets and their favoured sources of news sure as shit aren't going to be reporting any negative fallout from mueller's investigation in good faith, so what 'counterforce' will persuade them?

also, first term Reagan elicited different reactions than second term Ronnie. I mean, Gorby hadn't entered the picture.

ehhhhhhhhh I think there are just as many bland church bake-sale teens and thirtysomethings - banging on about abortion and how government should be run like a business and how liberals are so cuckoo with their tax-and-spend ways - as there were before trump. they're probably all a lot nastier than they were when i last really dealt with them face to face, thanks to the long fox news era, and certainly the more racist and hateful aspects of their political thinking have a much more dangerous license to be spoken these days. but it's not like every rank-and-file republican dropped everything to join 4chan a year ago.

calling DJT a "degenerate animal" or a "disgusting animal" should be de rigueur… would troll the fuck out of cerno/alt-right/ gamer/4chan shitheads, who think only they get to troll…

Trump referring to Warren as Pocahontas. For shame. How would Trump feel if people called him Hitler because of his German roots?

The only real upside of the increasingly-nihilistic right is that it's difficult for gravy-stained brownshirts to breed from the isolated confines of their parents' basements.

that Vox piece was great, and yeah, pretty much exactly what I anticipate happening :/

Trump referring to Warren as Pocahontas. For shame. How would Trump feel if people called him Hitler because of his German roots?

No, no, it's supposed to be "Fauxcahontas," because she falsely claimed some Native American ancestry to get preferential treatment and get counted as a diversity hire. That's the Rush/Fox line, anyway. (Alternative zing: "Lieawatha.")

But because Trump is stupid, he just says "Pocahontas" and the Red Hat Brigade howls with approval anyway, because they knew what he meant. And having the right enemies / pissing off the right people is all that matters anymore.

Yes, he could just as easily call her Eleanor Roosevelt or Attila the Hun or Clubber Lang. It doesn't matter if it has a meaningful referent or makes any sense as long as it's understood that it's a pejorative used to keep a big-mouth woman in her place.

No, no, it's supposed to be "Fauxcahontas," because she falsely claimed some Native American ancestry to get preferential treatment and get counted as a diversity hire. That's the Rush/Fox line, anyway. (Alternative zing: "Lieawatha.")

I have never heard either of these, whereas "Pocahontas" comes up all the time from conservatives in MA.

now i want trump to call someone 'clubber lang' ffs

Trump referring to Warren as Pocahontas. For shame. How would Trump feel if people called him Hitler because of his German roots?

Flora MacDonald would be funnier. His mother's even from the same area.

'donald where's your trousers' now playing on internal jukebox

clubber lang is a fuckin inspired choice for an imaginary non sequitur trump insult, bravo

Best memory in the world

http://m.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Trump-I-don-t-remember-meeting-at-center-of-12329138.php

How I wish media would stop using photos of butthole-mouth Trump :'-o

used to be i cherished the sight of every butthole

now i can barely stand to look at a butthole for more than an hour or two at a time

thanks obama

LBI, please be sensitive, a butthole is the only mouth he has.

the Oval Orifice

donald t. rump

OL that's true. Morbius eww

Our president's brave refusal to contort his facial sphincter into a quote 'normal' mouth shape increases awareness of those unfortunate souls who have to go through life unable to produce anything but utter shit from their word holes.

That Vox piece is hella depressing for sure.

yeah I think "lol nothing matters" has kind of been the lesson for a while now, especially in light of stuff like this

Meanwhile, Trump's Gallup approval percentage -- which hit a new low of 33 on Sunday -- has climbed 5 points since the indictments.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Just wondering, from a legal perspective, if you have a person claiming repeatedly that they have an excellent memory, one of the best ever, stretching back decades, except when they are questioned or deposed, when they suddenly get foggy or forgetful, does that carry any weight? Like, contempt or something? Unless they outright plead the fifth?