US Politics November 2017

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it's definitely Orwellian, but in the dumbest possible way

which is reassuring in a strange way, their utter incompetence blunts the fascistic attitude. I remember being legitimately freaked out by that first Spicer press conference - but it quickly became clear how silly they all were/are. makes things easier to deal with for sure.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

i feel like this points to why he got so obsessively enraged with comey after he found out that he might be subject to investigation. because he felt like comey had promised him that he would NOT be under investigation. he seemed particularly betrayed by the idea that comey had lied to him about that. but doesn't it seem so plausible that maybe comey said "you are not under investigation...at this time.", to which trump replied "so you're saying i'm not under investigation?", then Comey said "...at this time", and then trump nodded and thought "ha...got him!"? he just kind of doesn't get things

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 4:36 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, it's like someone being told that they aren't under arrest for a particular crime and thinking that they now have immunity from ever being arrested again. Because double jeopardy and I plead the fifth! Sad!

I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

I don't find it reassuring, this gives future politicians the green light to continue the same behavior after Trump and team are long gone.

xp

Moodles, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link

if trump were born a working class man, the last thing we'd ever heard from him would be him whining "but i asked him if he was a cop and he said he wasn't! if you ask a cop if they're a cop they have to tell you the truth, it's in the consti-*policecar door slams*

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link

xp yeah it's still horrible but it's relatively reassuring opposed to a competent fascist administration. but the longterm implications are obviously dire, yeah

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link

it is kind of amusing that we live under a fascist regime whose only goal is making Trump look like the bestest most smartest President ever

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link

a fascist regime whose only goal is making Trump look like the bestest most smartest President ever

Well, tbf, it also wants to wholly subvert or corrupt the departments of Justice, State, Interior, Education, HHS, HUD, Energy, & the EPA.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link

This is all bound to continue under more competent leadership in the future, and we will be thankful because we won't be contending with constant threats of nuclear war and insufficiently masked white supremacy.

Moodles, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

we will be thankful because we won't be contending with constant threats of... insufficiently masked white supremacy.

true for limited values of "we"

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link

did anyone watch the techie grilling?

"Can you please explain the difference between a bot and a troll?" -- a real sentence asked by a real congressman

— ಠ_ಠ (@MikeIsaac) November 1, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 22:28 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNklvOXXkAEXtdN.jpg:small

"Hello darkness, my old friend..."

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 23:33 (six years ago) link

Incredible photo

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

would totally bookmark a thread of photos of trump sidekicks realising they have made a huge mistake, while trump rages in the foreground (preferably out of focus)

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

yeah that's the fuckin stuff

j., Thursday, 2 November 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Ie5Q3my.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZCF4Y63.jpg

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 November 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link

But of course

New from us: Michael Flynn Followed Five Russian Troll Accounts, Pushed Their Messages in Days Before the Electionhttps://t.co/GlpDIX7n6w

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) November 2, 2017

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 November 2017 01:19 (six years ago) link

Game 7 is a snoozer. You should read about Betsy DeVos adjusting from impactful outsider to ineffectual bureaucrat. https://t.co/IhoXdcG2n5 pic.twitter.com/ugdEeAsUa2

— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) November 2, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link

also what is going on with this tax plan?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link

They’re gonna revive the secret-bill strategy, but for raising your taxes to finance enormous tax cuts for the rich. https://t.co/Jk4KZDHM9J pic.twitter.com/9DOCfyFphv

— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) November 1, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 November 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link

I'm starting to get the feeling these people may not have our best interests at heart

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 November 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link

Who knows exactly what is up with the tax cut shit - no one has seen anything - but it seems at least as confused. confusing and challenging as ACA repeal. They've got their slim margin to begin with, but there already appears to be several in the GOP with issues and concerns they want addressed. Some states want property tax deduction, some don't. Trump wants permanent corporate tax reduction, others think it should be gradually phased out. Trump floated ACA repeal as part of it, others said no. And so on. And that's before it's even released and dissected, not just from Dems but from everyone. Add to that Cohn saying he wants it by Friday, before Trump leaves for Asia, not to mention that they have 10 days before Thanksgiving break to juggle objections, constituencies, push-back and who knows what the fuck Trump will say about it, and it seems like a real uphill battle.

Which isn't to say it won't pass, but at least as much as the ACA repeal many in the GOP seems to recognize this as a total shit-burger that no one wants to eat.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 November 2017 03:27 (six years ago) link

What if there were just one brave republican that was brave enough to eat the shitburger

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 November 2017 04:03 (six years ago) link

what is going on with this tax plan?

The Republicans passed massive tax cuts for the rich in 2001 under GW Bush and when those cuts were set to expire during Obama's first term, they just ran around screaming "the Democrats want to raise income taxes" to anyone stupid enough to listen. It worked.

They learned a valuable lesson which they are all set to apply again to anew round of massive tax cuts for the rich.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 2 November 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

The Politico article mentions in passing some of the real damage DeVos is doing:

Already since taking office, DeVos’ department has deregulated the for-profit college industry that was targeted by Obama for its abuses and lack of accountability; revised the rule for defrauded students to gain loan forgiveness; attempted to consolidate all student loans under one servicing company, a plan she later abandoned; and, most notably, rescinded the Obama-era guidance on Title IX as it pertained to sexual assault cases on campus.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 2 November 2017 08:44 (six years ago) link

at 8:00am our fucking president is screaming "death penalty" over the internet . i hate this so much

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 2 November 2017 12:49 (six years ago) link

luv2tweet about ongoing legal proceedings

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 November 2017 12:51 (six years ago) link

Can't wait till "Do you follow Donald Trump on Twitter?" becomes a question defense attorneys ask to disqualify jurors. ("Do you watch Fox News?" already should be.)

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 2 November 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politics/sam-clovis-department-of-agriculture/index.html

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:11 (six years ago) link

As for the 400 lb guy in Jersey

https://www.wsj.com/articles/prosecutors-consider-bringing-charges-in-dnc-hacking-case-1509618203

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link

Re: Clovis, is says a lot that it takes possible collusion with a foreign power to derail his nom for chief scientist of the department of agriculture, and not the fact that he lacks any scientific background.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link

Rick Perry suggests fossil fuels help prevent sexual assault https://t.co/tLVOJd2DGY pic.twitter.com/kjurODSy8y

— The Hill (@thehill) November 2, 2017

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

unexpected source!

Former interim Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Donna Brazile claims Hillary Clinton secretly took over the DNC before she had won the Democratic primary.

In an excerpt from her new book published by Politico, Brazile said she promised Clinton’s opponent, Bernie Sanders, that she would get to the bottom of whether Clinton had “rigged the nomination process.” She wrote, “By September 7, the day I called Bernie, I had found my proof and it broke my heart.”

Brazile describes a fundraising agreement between the Hillary Victory Fund, Hillary for America, and the DNC that stipulated that Hillary would control the “party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised” in exchange for Clinton raising money and investing in the DNC. It was signed long before Clinton became the nominee.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donna-brazile-i-found-proof-that-hillary-rigged-the-race-against-bernie

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

that is some beyond-galaxy-brain shit xp

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNoKk5nXcAAVlxI.jpg

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link

Re: Perry, I guess when Trump sets the stupidity bar so high, you really have to launch over that fucker if you wanna make the stupidest public statement of any given day.

Evening Shade and Designing Women will not be seen tonight (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link

Morbs I already links that on the Dems thread, this one is only for "he's orange!" jokes and breathless dot-connecting

Simon H., Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link

please don't say 'launch over that fucker' about the guy who looks after the usa's nuclear arsenal, i'm nervous enough as it is xp

proton, neutron, electron and crouton (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:28 (six years ago) link

when was the last time someone mentioned Trump's orange skin on this thread

frogbs, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

I think he looks less orange recently

Treeship, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/fashion/trump-official-portrait.html

Instead, it depicts Mr. Trump in front of the de rigueur American flag, in a navy suit with flag pin, white shirt, patterned blue tie — and big grin. The orange glow has been toned down, but it is the smile that really sticks out. It almost looks as if he’s being tickled. The word chortle comes to mind.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

It’s better than most of his other portrait photos where he looks like he’s shitting his pants

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

The official portrait makes him look like he just shit his pants on purpose.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

It’s better than most of his other portrait photos where he looks like he’s shitting his pants

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:45 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The crazy thing is that you can tell he practiced that shitting face in the mirror a lot, so it's obviously what he thinks is his best photo face.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

most photos of trump in the white house have him looking whiter, paler, more washed out overall. I sort of wondered if there was a conscious decision made that this made him look presidential or something.

chinavision!, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:50 (six years ago) link

like it's a distinct change in appearance post-campaign

chinavision!, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link


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