https://www.avclub.com/explaining-stranger-things-most-obscure-reference-1820037980
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link
Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE7TS2Rituo
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
once Ready Player One hits theaters you will remember Stranger Things as a high water mark of referential subtlety
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
The more I read about the references, the happier I am that I have never seen Aliens, the Matrix, Goonies, nor Gremlins (and am unfamiliar with The Invisibles).
But then, maybe it's like loving Paul's Boutique, but never having heard Curtis Mayfield, the Beatles, or Sly.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
It's pretty hilarious when they score a non-supernatural character moment with a menacing synth drone.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
I'm wondering what Tarfumes actually has seen, now
― mh, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
*puts hand up* I've never seen the Goonies (all the way through. I've caught a bit of it on TV while flicking channels)
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
The fact that this show is so on the nose as Goonies meets X-Files is exactly its flaw.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
I didn't see Goonies until maybe 5 years ago.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
imo that one's a fair omission
― mh, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
I can say at the very least that this show is better than The Goonies.
― I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
Although I kind of feel like Explorers is an even more accurate reference point than Goonies.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
haha I watched that last year w the kids at a relative's house and yes
not a good film
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link
(it works okay until the aliens actually show up)
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
― mh, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 12:17 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
In terms of references in the show, Ghostbusters, E.T....and yeah, that's pretty much it.
I was more into comedies at that age; wasn't interested in a lot of scary/supernatural stuff.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
Just looked through a list of films from '85 and here are my reference predictions for next season:
Back to the FutureRamboReal GeniusDay of the DeadMad Max Beyond ThunderdomePee-Wee's Big AdventureSilver BulletTeen WolfGhouliesKrush GrooveKiss of the Spider WomanWeird ScienceTampopoMaskSanta Claus: the MovieThe Color Purple (obligatory Spielberg)Re-AnimatorPolice Academy 2CocoonGrace QuigleyThe Goonies
― I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
The more I read about the references, the happier I am that I have never seen Aliens, the Matrix, Goonies, nor Gremlins (and am unfamiliar with The Invisibles).The Invisibles is a comic from the '90s and '00s, it's not the same type of reference as the rest of the series is trucking in
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
Which makes the whole homage kind of jarring tbh
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:28 (one hour ago) Permalink
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:29 (one hour ago) Permalink
OTM, however I watched the shit out of it as one of the few VHS tapes we owned.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
I assume it's as clumsy and stupid as the refs to Under the Skin in S1
xp
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
With Under the Skin they were basically just ripping off a cool visual
It's a lot clumsier than that
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
I think all of S3 should be a blatant Mac and Me homage.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
The main characters in The Invisibles are a five person group of violent punk rebels with psychic powers, fighting against a nefarious conspiracy involving the government and other authorities. It's not really a particularly blatant lift, the motivation of the group in the comic is completely different, and presumably so is that of the bad guys.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:31 (six years ago) link
Yes, which makes it all the more inexplicable
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
As people have already mentioned, the whole psychic kids scenario in ST is more reminiscent of Akira than the Invisibles.xpost
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
As I mention, the only reason I made the connection was the explicit Invisibles-related graffiti in the background during their scenes.
― I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link
It's not really a particularly blatant lift
King Mob graffiti sounds p fucking blatant to me
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
I meant lift in the sense that they'd borrowed the plot of the comic. The graffiti are just a cute little shout-out.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
in a show composed entirely of cute little shout-outs
idk why I'm on this thread, I'm not watching this and will duck out
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
it's just...odd that they would shout out such a 90s artefact in a (ostensibly) none more 80s show
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
I thought you were gonna let us enjoy our sub-literate derivative nonsense
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
Maybe they just wrote the episode, then realised the characters were unintentionally similar to the Invisibles, and decided to add the graffiti to acknowledge the similarity?
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
I'm pretty sure they were explicitly intended to be the Invisibles. Eleven kept saying stuff like, "hey, Invisibles, where am I?" and "hey, Invisibles, where is the bathroom?". IIRC.
― I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
Well, TBH, in that one scene Kali did make them *invisible* to the cops.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
Your honor, the prosecution rests.
― I cannit beleve how stupid yoy all r (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
ive seen alien & aliens & i think i noticed one reference in both seasons. it's been awhile. also i never really broke down films in this way where i was isolating them into bit parts or lines i memorized or "memorable shots" or any of that, my approach to film has always been much more as average viewer than it was like my more music nerd tendencies. so anyway the references go over my head a lot, or they more just feel like an ambient tone of '80s-ness
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:38 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sad this isn't about D-40 arguing that Stranger Things rips off Chief Keef somehow
― "the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
heh
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
shakey mo i thought you were leaving this thread
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link
"Kali actress was so bad"
"and her crew was corny as hell"
they were awesome! such a perfect homage to 80's movie/t.v. "punks". that alley that 11 walks through was such a perfect MTV video alley too.
― scott seward, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link
that whole season was totally worth it for the awesome last episode. that was the best last episode ever. so cool. they really saved everything great for that one hour.
― scott seward, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:32 (six years ago) link
if you watch that companion netflix series 11 talks about how hard that chicago episode was for her. how after they filmed the modine part she had to go cry in the bathroom for an hour.
― scott seward, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link
ep 7 was an excruciating set-up to the final 10 minutes or so where they break into that guys house, which were good. I turned it off halfway through (during the "dead end justice" scene) because the tone was so wrong.
― how's life, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link
"Agree that the Chicago parts were largely pointless. It's like 'we need Eleven to get lost somewhere' and they came up with this dumb Inception-meets-Matrix thing with these too-cool-for-school cyber-punks diversion to keep her busy for a whole episode."
i really saw this at part of her bildungsroman. she's the most compelling character by far and the visit to her mom and then chicago and then knowing that she has to go back and face that place again...it was a pretty cool coming of age thing!
the cabin stuff was pretty intense too. a crash course in teen/father angst/boredom. and she was trapped there just like she was trapped with papa modine all that time. kinda creepy. trauma city. so, that's why i appreciated her freedom quest.
― scott seward, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I guess if I was being charitable, maybe the 80s movie punks are purposely cartoony to emphasize how they don't even feel like they're from the same world that Eleven is used to - a child who's been locked up her whole life and has very little experience of the world. Maybe? Idk. They're still super annoying.
― how's life, Thursday, 2 November 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link
xp agree the cabin stuff was great. She's a fantastic actor
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
the duffer brothers talk a little about how they were excited to do the 80's urban movie thing on that netflix interview show. they should do a whole movie for netflix a la linda blair's savage streets.
http://www.joblo.com/images_arrownews/linda-blair-4.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link
that episode made me want to watch class of 1984.
http://www.slashingthrough.com/images/reviews/classof2.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I plan on watching all those extra features segments that we got this time. I just finished the season last night though, so I'm giving it a while to breathe.
― how's life, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link
that rap on fallon is painful, I made it about 20 seconds in. I just can't do those things.
― akm, Thursday, 2 November 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link