brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

No deal is a kind of deal / there is no no deal only a shit deal.

David Davis says whatever happens "we will have a basic deal - I think of it as a deal without the bits we want"

lol! You can see why DD is considered such a big beast/titan of intellect/next leader candidate, see how he polishes that dog-turd of no-deal with such finesse!

Funnily enough I was just reading a fawning Toby Young article from last year talking about Michael Gove's towering intellect and how he should be the next PM and you have to conclude that these people are where they are precisely because they represent a stupid person's idea of a clever person.

Does anyone want that Stephen Collins cartoon again or nah

i could look at that for hours tbh

There seemed to be a group of superfans talking up Gove as some great conservative ideologue and thinker of our era around 2015/16. I don't think this outright lie was ever going to stand up to much scrutiny i.e. people actually meeting Gove and hearing him talk etc..

michael fallon MP resigns from cabinet

Sir Michael Fallon. Are there more revelations in the offing?

also:Govt fail to oppose to Labour motion on publication of secret Brexit assessments. Speaker: I expect ministers to comply.

I think this means they have to publish the Brexit assessments, but you never know with this lot.

must be more coming on fallon

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNkg_x6WsAELdra.jpg

this nonsense that any reports that reflect a negative economic outlook on Brexit will affect their negotiating position doesn't hold water. Psst they already heard you say this!

Can anyone explain the Fallon story? its been on the news for the last 20 minutes but absolutely no mention of what he's resigning for. Its the weirdest resignation

More must be coming, I don't get it otherwise, whats his game

he touched a woman's knee 10+ years ago. had to go

The allegation in the press was apparently not the same as the one in the leaked document so there are at least two things hanging over his head.

I like the way Nick Robinson is trying to suggest that maybe it was the booze to blame for his behaviour, not the man. Yeah, sure.

Whats the real reason he's resigned? Do we know?

Ah well. #TorySleaze36 pic.twitter.com/DkfYMvEeOA

— Rachael (@Rachael_Swindon) October 31, 2017

Seems reasonable.

absent any further revelations in the next few days, he's set a pretty low bar for resignations. could be pretty destabilising in the next couple of weeks

Lol! Julia Hartley-Brewer just described Fallon as a "good strong pair of hands" on R4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds6qJQAZnUQ

"bein accused of things that, maybe, they hadn't really done or maybe at the time everyone was sloshed, i dunno"

as an aside, there are only 330 Tory MPs and I feel like I've seen them all so how come there are more and more vile ones like that I'd never seen before appearing all the time? It's relentless.

Drink makes good men bad and makes guileless women into deserving victims is the Fabricant/Robinson script so far.

Imagine falling below the standards that have been set by the armed forces.

Fallon: I'm Worse Than a Pissed-Up Squaddie

Is that c*nt Philip Davies on this list that's been doing the rounds?

Claire Fox, inevitably, sticking up for Fallon - it's what she does after all.

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/the-tory-sex-dossier-is-absolute-mess.html?m=1

Demanding it be transferred to Excel?

I was going to say, can't read that for shit!

Pivot to the right

tory love of blackmail is alarming in the internet age

0bs3rv3r.com were kind enough to print a full shot of the unredacted list over the weekend, for anyone who may be so interested..

the spreadsheet is not all that enlightening - aside from some gossip about embarrassing but consensual stuff, most of the entries are some variation on "inappropriate with male/female staff/researchers", which seems like it could mean pretty much anything?

its use of the word "fornication" doesn't inspire confidence

exactly the type of prudish and arcane language you'd expect from people from the 19th century

What does that Liam Fox entry say?

Can't work it out

Adam Werritty

Which means?

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Werritty was his faux-assistant fuck-buddy behind a previous expenses scandal that or should that be co-fornicator?

It's astonishing that Michael Fabricant having dressed up as Boris for Halloween isn't even on the top five most offensive things about that video.

The Werrity scandal was that he was letting a lobbyist friend, not employed in any official capacity, attend secret Defence meetings but there was a lot of nudging and winking that they sometimes shared a room on their travels iirc.

The linked blog piece suggests that the document was compiled as blackmail material. It seems equally plausible that this specific list was a form of collaborative gossip - partly doing a critically important job of letting staff know who is dangerous but, in nearly half the cases, just showing a prurient interest in people's private lives.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/oct/12/liam-fox-denies-coverup-burglary

Also Werrity lived in Fox's flat for two years.

Fine instance of That Facial Expression there (xp)

The fact that Liam Fox is a moron offends me more than whatever he gets up to with his young friend though.

He's fornicated now

I wonder if Boris is relieved or offended that he isn't even mentioned on a sex dossier.

When it was revealled William Hague was sharing twin bedrooms (to save money, cos Tories are usually so frugal yeah) with his young aide, his denials of an affair had a huge whiff of bs about them. It might have been mutually consensual in this case, or could just have easily been an abuse of power differentials.

Boris is mentioned iirc.

I couldn't see his name on the blurry pic above.