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there are many musical acts I'd gladly see in a venue with a hundred people, and some of them completely lose the impact at any scale larger than that

seeing art in museums >>>>>>>>>>> hearing music at concerts/shows

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:53 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Absolutely.

you can walk around more, talk to people, not get pushed one way or another, and you can still drink.

xp agreed and conversely listening to music on your laptop >>>>>>>> looking at art on your laptop

Getting back to controversial opinions....no fuckit I'm not touching it

Art viewing would be an excellent use for VR, come to think of it. If it could accurately recreate gallery lighting conditions and the scale of the piece.

I strongly recommend that you all see some professional opera singers tear up a stage live

so much music from the 20th century onwards is specifically designed for reproduction in a way that's true of very little visual art

in retrospect, some live shows I've attended really tried their best to recreate the aesthetic of listening to music at home alone in the dark

apparently, a controversial opinion: opera is just as immediate and relatable as popular music and people refuse to engage with it because they've been taught that it's Not For Them

I like viewing live modern dance more than I do broadway musicals

Mordy- really? I think it's easier to take in art, because with music you're probably doing a lot of other things on the computer.

Noodle Vague- there's a huge amount that never gets shown anywhere in the original, especially illustrative art. Of course digital art that thousands of people do now.

I take no position on reproductions vs live paintings but an ideal concert - seeing the right act at the right stage in their career, with the right audience at the right venue - is a wonderful thing.

i love opera DJP but a full performance is not exactly the same as a pop concert and requires a kind of different way of engaging

Robert i'm not an either/or guy with music or visual art but i think, broadly, it's fair to say that reproduction of visual art almost always falls short of experiencing the original and that the situation is much more complex with music, especially forms of music intended to be heard as recordings/reproductions

illustrative art doesn't usually suffer from reproduction or digital rendering. it was mostly made to fit that kind of distribution very well.

I've forced myself to allocate time for actual music listening, not staring at the computer

only listening to music while doing other things is a problem, everyone should be allowed time to just lay in bed or sit in a park with headphones on, or have a space where there are no distractions to just listen

don't think this is controversial but: "if you're not actively listening to music then you are experiencing it at a reduced level of apprehension"

I tend to avoid opera for the same possibly unfair assumption/reason I dislike most stage musicals:

The stories stink.

Private cars should be banned from city streets.

Civic celebration of Christmas is offensive.

Single-family homes are an inefficient use of urban land and should be phased out.

i agree w that

in major cities for sure

come on none of these are controversial

Well they're controversial in that there are evidently voters in my municipality who disagree with me. And they yell a lot at public hearings.

deep down they know we're right

Get paid for voting. Vouchers maybe.

Weed smells bad.

i think most people agree w that

they call it skunk, right?

I hate that stuff with a passion. But sometimes need to use it for research purposes.

I don't smoke weed but love the smell.

Work colleague smoking bifta in back of van at 6.30 am used to make me feel ill tbh. But on the return journey I'd always be happy for a toke.

when I say "happy", not if it was that really strong stuff that was akin to dropping a trip.

There's something unpleasant about the fact that you can smell someone who's been smoking it from miles away - as opposed to tobacco, say - rather than the actual smell itself.

I mean, you have to drink a lot of booze before you start stinking of it.

depends how much you spill

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i completely understand the 80s revival hate but i'm so not over it!!

cured tobacco smells very nice just sitting there, cigarette smoke smells bad

mh is right; I love smelling tobacco drying; sometimes I'll happen across a pack of unfiltered Camels and just breathe over it for a while.

That said: Smokers in general can't smell what the nonsmokers around them are smelling. So their opinions of what is and isn't offensive are not generally a useful part of the discussion.

Not tryna be Judgey McJudgeypants but: If you set something on fire an inch and a half from your nose, your own olfactory receptors are quickly overwhelmed; you get noseblind to it. You cannot know what it smells like to other people, so your opinion of whether it's "not that bad" or whatever is inadmissible. And probably wrong. I don't ask a raging alcoholic to tell me whether my breath smells like vodka either.

I say this as a fan of some smoked things! I used to know some guys who weren't avid smokers but who liked the smell of pipe tobacco, so they took turns. One smoking, the other getting the full benefit of the smell. Not recommending that approach, just sayin' it's out there.

And calzino is onthemoneyest of onthemonies about Rothko. Rothko is frickin legit

childhood church had a deacon that smoked cigars. I generally enjoyed being an altar server because it made the tedium of mandatory Mass less painful. but you occasionally had to stand next to that deacon as he read the gospel and hold in the barf as you smelled his vile cigar breath.

I miss when there was a cigar store at the local mall because walking into the humidor room for a minute was kind of nice, just very mellow and the right humidity and tobacco smelling

cigar stores smell wonderful, it's true. other vivid tobacco memory is a classmate who could not give his loose oreos away at the lunch table in a trade because his parents' heavy smoking permeated all known man made wrappers and receptacles. that guy was badass, though, and wore sleeveless hooded sweatshirts with flaming skull print to Mass on the weekends.

oh god

I’m reminded of a date I went on where we briefly barhopped and had to take her car since she had been drinking, and insisted we take the car she could smoke in

i was not aware the human body could be permeated by cigarette smoke, but I figured it out

certain tiny liquor stores have a tobacco-ey smell that's very nice and nostalgic to me

Grew up in tobacco country, spent a lot of time hanging out in tobacco barns smelling dried tobacco.

Controversial opinion: these are some of the best smelling things you can buy at a gas station

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what this country needs is a good 5 cent cigar