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The internet was the best thing to happen for art. You can see anything you want in good reproductions, whereas even with access to a good university library, a lot of the reproductions in the older books will be in black and white or poor colour quality.

ppl who talk about how you -need- to go see an artwork or whatever in person are insufferable

xxp to mh going to my local in small bursts is mainly what i do, but do all galleries have a problem with reflections of the lighting on the pictures if you stand at the wrong spot, find that v distracting

xpost How dare they, amirite

you don't need to see any artwork, but some art is a lot more exciting in person compared to reproductions

ppl who talk about how you -need- to go see an artwork or whatever in person are insufferable

― sleepingbag, Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:44 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"omg you have to try this, here, taste this, cmon try it, here, taste it, COME ON!!!"

xxp to NV, a lot of galleries don't!

I go to a lot of very dark art spaces, though, so take it with a grain of salt

man, I want to go to an art museum now

xp agreed on those people, it's one of the reasons I avoid artist talks at times or leave before they take questions, because some people ask questions because they enjoy their own voices

worst ever was a question that began with a run-on intro about how they stayed at X hotel and Y music was playing and it set the scene for Z and jesus christ is there a question in here

seeing art in museums >>>>>>>>>>> hearing music at concerts/shows

It's the insistence that the reproductions don't work or matter at all that's annoying. It can be similar to that "you're not a real fan if you haven't met this criteria" thing.

I pretty much never bother going because I don't have faith in the nearby galleries but maybe I've missed a lot.

I dearly miss being in art school and going to openings every Friday. Like working on some shit and wandering downstairs to the gallery at some point, having a drink and poring over a goodly amount of not-great stuff but then a couple of really amazing and inspiring pieces and then feeling inspired to wander back upstairs and work harder on some shit. Meeeeeemories...

there are many musical acts I'd gladly see in a venue with a hundred people, and some of them completely lose the impact at any scale larger than that

seeing art in museums >>>>>>>>>>> hearing music at concerts/shows

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:53 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Absolutely.

you can walk around more, talk to people, not get pushed one way or another, and you can still drink.

xp agreed and conversely listening to music on your laptop >>>>>>>> looking at art on your laptop

Getting back to controversial opinions....no fuckit I'm not touching it

Art viewing would be an excellent use for VR, come to think of it. If it could accurately recreate gallery lighting conditions and the scale of the piece.

I strongly recommend that you all see some professional opera singers tear up a stage live

so much music from the 20th century onwards is specifically designed for reproduction in a way that's true of very little visual art

in retrospect, some live shows I've attended really tried their best to recreate the aesthetic of listening to music at home alone in the dark

apparently, a controversial opinion: opera is just as immediate and relatable as popular music and people refuse to engage with it because they've been taught that it's Not For Them

I like viewing live modern dance more than I do broadway musicals

Mordy- really? I think it's easier to take in art, because with music you're probably doing a lot of other things on the computer.

Noodle Vague- there's a huge amount that never gets shown anywhere in the original, especially illustrative art. Of course digital art that thousands of people do now.

I take no position on reproductions vs live paintings but an ideal concert - seeing the right act at the right stage in their career, with the right audience at the right venue - is a wonderful thing.

i love opera DJP but a full performance is not exactly the same as a pop concert and requires a kind of different way of engaging

Robert i'm not an either/or guy with music or visual art but i think, broadly, it's fair to say that reproduction of visual art almost always falls short of experiencing the original and that the situation is much more complex with music, especially forms of music intended to be heard as recordings/reproductions

illustrative art doesn't usually suffer from reproduction or digital rendering. it was mostly made to fit that kind of distribution very well.

I've forced myself to allocate time for actual music listening, not staring at the computer

only listening to music while doing other things is a problem, everyone should be allowed time to just lay in bed or sit in a park with headphones on, or have a space where there are no distractions to just listen

don't think this is controversial but: "if you're not actively listening to music then you are experiencing it at a reduced level of apprehension"

I tend to avoid opera for the same possibly unfair assumption/reason I dislike most stage musicals:

The stories stink.

Private cars should be banned from city streets.

Civic celebration of Christmas is offensive.

Single-family homes are an inefficient use of urban land and should be phased out.

i agree w that

in major cities for sure

come on none of these are controversial

Well they're controversial in that there are evidently voters in my municipality who disagree with me. And they yell a lot at public hearings.

deep down they know we're right

Get paid for voting. Vouchers maybe.

Weed smells bad.

i think most people agree w that

they call it skunk, right?

I hate that stuff with a passion. But sometimes need to use it for research purposes.

I don't smoke weed but love the smell.

Work colleague smoking bifta in back of van at 6.30 am used to make me feel ill tbh. But on the return journey I'd always be happy for a toke.

when I say "happy", not if it was that really strong stuff that was akin to dropping a trip.

There's something unpleasant about the fact that you can smell someone who's been smoking it from miles away - as opposed to tobacco, say - rather than the actual smell itself.

I mean, you have to drink a lot of booze before you start stinking of it.

depends how much you spill

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